W dniu 2014-03-26 10:01, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze:
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

And the relationship to the IBM-MAIN topic is ?
and

Relationship to mainframes?
My opinion: Some z/OS systems are blocked to access IBM sites for PTFs, etc. 
WinXP placed between outside internet and z/OS can then be used to do transfers 
or browsing IBM websites (and library server too).

So far, at least for SP3 (WinXP 32bit), it was proved stable enough. Some of 
our users are [still !!!] using vendor 3270 emulators which are still working 
on WinXP, not on newer micro$oft toys.

Those users need to upgrade really fast because of SSL issues. ;-)

BTW: on some of our Win7 (64bit) laptops we have problems with some vendors 3G 
cards. That cards are working 100% on WinXP (32bit and 64bit) and Win7 (32bit). 
We use 3G cards to access z/OS when not in office.

So, it is about stability, relability, etc. Your usual FUD... ;-D

Oh, BTW, I don't know of anyone here who is using Win8.

Just my badly eroded rusted 2 cents...

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
( Climate Change? Nah, make it Climate Confusion! ;-D )

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Elardus,
I know people (including my humble person) using Win 9x far after it was out of support. Some of them used the PC to connect to mainframe. So?
I just dropped my 3174's - they had no support contract for 10+ years.
I have/had some equipment or software which doesn't work with newer systems. For example, PCOMM 5.8.x installation is blocked by Win7 (wih some service, AFAIK vanilla Win7 does not block it).
However it's still PC environment.
There is no scare to use unsupported system especially the support does not prevent you form being hacked, support does not fix new holes, all the holes exist now (even as uknown). Last but not least: there are closed system, like laptop inside HDS dasd box or PC inside EMC dasd box. Sometimes they are really ancient, but completely unconnected to rest of the world with little chance to have new (to new to be supported) hardware. And this is also not related to the mainframe itself ;-)

I have no objection for discussion about weather report for next Share (although I've never been on any), or even offshore economy.. ;-) It's just off-topic.

I just wanted to point out two things:
1. Win XP EOS is not related to mainframes.
2. The EOS date is not death date. After the EOS date all the WinXP won't stop working or get hacked, or start claiming 2+2=5.


Last, but not least, good advice to Win8 haters: Try to use Classic Shell freeware. I did it on my Win7 and it looks like Windows 98 ;-))) I spent a loooot of time on Win7 customization and now I see no big difference between Win7 and WinXP (I use both on different machines) BTW: I sill use IBM Bookreader (this 16-bit, for Win 3.1) on my Win7 32-bit.

.

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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland






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