‎As for location, in a distant galaxy long ago, SLED DASD liked VTOC and 
VVDS (did that exist then?) located in the middle of  the volume to 
minimize head movement. (Nod if you agree.) That pra

It stopped nattering long before RAID came out.
3380-K was when IBM stopped recommending it.
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  Original Message  
From: Skip Robinson
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 14:12
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Subject: Re: Implicit VVDS creation

Aside from the how of creating your own VVDS, I'm concerned about the why. 
OK, if an existing VVDS fills up, that's a why. Otherwise, you might 
consider creating your own VVDS at the outset if the default size or 
location is likely not appropriate for the volume. For example, a huge 
volume like a Mod-54 or any that will likely hold a myriad of small data 
sets might well need a larger VVDS. OTOH a volume for JES, page, or XCF 
data sets will likely never need more than a minuscule VVDS. 

As for location, in a distant galaxy long ago, SLED DASD liked VTOC and 
VVDS (did that exist then?) located in the middle of the volume to 
minimize head movement. (Nod if you agree.) That practice no longer makes 
sense in the era of RAID, so generally aim for the lowest address 
possible. Especially for JES and page volumes, location or size of VTOC 
and VVDS can reduce the usable space for very large single-extent data 
sets. In these cases, very small VTOC and VVDS (if needed) should be 
scrunched into the first few tracks. 

.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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From: "Cosby, Bob - OCFO" <bob.co...@nfc.usda.gov>
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date: 02/07/2014 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: Implicit VVDS creation
Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>



Just ran into a situation where the VVDS was filling up; 10,10 was not 
working. Our DBMB group was installing DB2 V10 which has to be SMS 
managed and were placing hundred of DSNs on one mod-3.
So I INIT'ed them as
INIT UNIT(560D) VOLID(DBJ555) VTOC(1,0,60) VFY(TS560D) -
INDEX(0,1,14) STGR

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
Behalf Of John McKown
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:01 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re:group Implicit VVDS creation

Yes. step1 is ICKDSF. Step2 creates VVDS.


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:22 AM, David G. Schlecht
<dschle...@admin.nv.gov>wrote:

> Does anyone still build VVDS datasets explicitly when initializing 
volumes?
>
> I understand that the default allocation for a new VVDS is CYLS(10 10)
> which saves me from having to rebuild the VVDS if it fills up.
>
> What is everyone else doing with VVDS datasets? Is there still a valid
> argument for building them explicitly?
>
>
> David G. Schlecht | Information Technology Professional State of
> Nevada | Department of Administration | Enterprise IT Services
> T:(775)684-4328 | F: (775) 684‐4324 | E:dschle...@admin.nv.gov



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