I believe that the STP-to-9037 scenario was envisioned as an emergency 
fallback option, not an upgrade (or rather downgrade) procedure. The 
kicker is that your z10 does not have the STP feature now, but the z10 is 
no longer upgradable. The only possibility I see is to acquire a different 
CEC, either a comparable z10 that already has STP or an affordable z196 or 
even z114.

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From:   Mark Jacobs <mark.jac...@custserv.com>
To:     IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   02/06/2014 06:15 AM
Subject:        Re: Sysplex Common Time Source
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>



You've hit the problem, we have two z196 processors that are STP 
capable, but can't have the 9037's attached, and one z10 where we can 
attach the sysplex timers, but that processor doesn't have the STP 
feature.

Mark Jacobs

On 02/06/14 09:05, Dana Mitchell wrote:
>> On 02/06/14 06:38, Scott Chapman wrote:
>>> I believe that you can have a mixed CTN where one CEC doesn't have 
STP, but in that case the external time source must be
>> the 9037 and I'm pretty sure that at least one of the CECs must be both 
STP and 9037 capable. I don't know what the implications > are from 
converting from a pure STP environment back to a mixed environment, but it 
seems like when we did the conversion to > STP there was some sort of 
fall-back provision.
>>
> The STP Implementation Guide Redbook SG24-7281 describes migrating from 
STP-only CTN to Mixed CTN. They add this caution:
>
> A migration from STP-only to Mixed CTN may take considerable time due to 
the potential
> difference in time between the Current Time Server and the Sysplex 
Timer, at the start of the
> migration. Once the migration is selected, the STP facility will need to 
steer the Coordinated
> Server Time (CST) towards the time being provided by the Sysplex Timer.
>
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 07:27:15 -0500, Mark Jacobs 
<mark.jac...@custserv.com> wrote:
>> That was what we originally though too, but our local IBM support 
person
>> told us we couldn't. Thinking further about configuration activities to
>> migrate to mixed CTN mode, I'm not seeing how on the non STP capable
>> processor we're going to be able to set the name of the mixed CTN, 
since
>> it isn't going to have the STP tab for that CEC,
>>
> In a mixed CTN, one or more CECs can be only attached to the 9037's and 
not even required to be STP capable.  There must be at least one CEC that 
is STP capable and attached to 9037's.
>
>
> Dana


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