W dniu 2014-01-20 22:44, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
On 2014-01-20, at 13:35, R.S. wrote:
And what about n-times overwrite policies? What number is proper? Does one need 
to overwrite disk content once, twice, 3 times, 7 times or 21 times? What's the 
magic number? And what is the reason for the number?
For example from:

     http://www.fsl.cs.sunysb.edu/docs/secdel/

     2.3        Overwrite Data Many Times
Years ago it was shown that there is a chance that even after the data is 
overwritten, it can potentially be recovered [15]. Many experts believe that 
unless one can overwrite the data numerous times, that it is not worth to 
overwrite it even once [9]. Nothing could be further from the truth. Even the 
government’s own NIST and NISPOM standards for secure deletion of top-secret 
files call for overwriting no more than three-times [8, 23]; and, for most 
users, a single overwrite will suffice and greatly enhance security. In 
particular, one overwrite will make any software-based data recovery 
impossible. Thus, hackers who gain privileged access to the system will not be 
able to recover files deleted from its hard disks. To date, no commercial 
services are available to recover data that was overwritten even just once [24].

(See original for citations ca. 2005 and earlier.)

My suspicion is that it was empirical.  Someone working with
RAID/virtual disks which don't really overwrite in place
observed that data were still recoverable from original,
non-overwritten sectors.  But a sufficient number of
overwrites would suffice to overwrite the real backing store.
1. I did mean DISK overwirte. Not some emulated gismo, especially not dasd arrays like Iceberg/RVA. That's completely different story and - important - it's still not applicable to number of writes. The problem in such arrays is to really overwrite the disks, no matter how many times. It's important to overwirte al least once, but every disk area, each copy. It's more like caution to delete dataset *and* its copies and backups.
(Disclaimer: spare sectors on HDD is yet another story.)
2. Fun story: some company used special software to overwrite PC HDDs. The number of writes was set to 5. Reason: default was 3, "but we want more security". 3. Regarding possibility rto read *valuable* information overwritten once: Such theoretical possibility assumes one use good microscope and watches single magnetic domain. There is no hidden HDD command like "read deleted info". And now: what is easier: decrypt encrypted content of play with 100000000000000000-element puzzle of domains?



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