Chris, Agreed. That coupled with interest is always a great combination and work ethic ..
Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD > On Jan 6, 2014, at 3:52 PM, "Blaicher, Christopher Y." > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ed, Dan, et al > > I missed the education part in my message. > > Yes, there are often good reasons for doing something and not doing something > else, but it needs to be done as educational, not a put down. > > Chris Blaicher > Principal Software Engineer, Software Development > Syncsort Incorporated > 50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677 > P: 201-930-8260 | M: 512-627-3803 > E: [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Dan Skwire > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 3:42 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Scary Sysprogs and educating those 'kids'.... > > I have written a book that explains the 'mainframe mindset'. I think it > really explains our thinking, in a way that the 'kids' really need to hear, > and understand, before they (continue to) make all those mistakes we might've > made, 'way back when... > > My main point is: that mainframe systems (software AND hardware) were built > expecting problems, and that makes them so robust. That is contrasted to many > non-main-framers who start problem-solving AFTER a problem occurs (collecting > data, recreating the problem, etc). > > I think the point is fundamental. > > The book is: "First Fault Software Problem Solving: A Guide for Engineers, > Managers and Users", available in paper and e-book on amazon, and other > places (Safari library online). The ISBN number is 1906717427. > > I have been trying to get this in front of 'the kids', and get it accepted by > many of my senior colleagues, endorsed as 'that's important, Dan'. > > What do YOU (all) think? Am I off base? is it as significant (as I think it > is)? > > There aren't too many books (I've looked) that explain THIS point. > > It is somewhat light reading - with concepts, arguments, examples of > bullet-proof constructions, even on non-mainframe platforms (yes, there are > some, not so many...), and illustrations/cartoons. > > What do you all think? > > Is reaching the 'kids' important? I think it is. I think z/OS and its related > third-party products will have few supporters once us senior baby-boomer > main-framers start retiring (hahaha) in 3 to 5 years. Unless we start > collaborating with 'the kids', NOW. > > Dan > > (I apologize in advance for this 'commercial' message. Trust me, even if you > all buy the book, it won't be so lucrative for me. Books rarely make authors > rich, unless..). > > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: "Blaicher, Christopher Y." <[email protected]> >> Sent: Jan 6, 2014 3:15 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Scary Sysprogs >> >> I have been a sys prog or ISV developer for over 45 years. I have always >> HATED it when someone says "We have always done it this way", or the like. >> Tell me why the old way is better or why the new way won't work. >> >> We all need to open up our minds to new ideas. Most of the people I work >> with are half my age, some a third. I always look at what they come up with >> with a positive how can we make this work attitude. Some ideas do work and >> some don't and some aren't any better than what exists, but they all deserve >> the light of day. >> >> We can still be grumpy old men, just don't stifle anybody's creativeness and >> try to be nice to the younger crowd until they get to know you. >> >> Chris Blaicher >> Principal Software Engineer, Software Development Syncsort Incorporated >> 50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677 >> P: 201-930-8260 | M: 512-627-3803 >> E: [email protected] >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Ed Gould >> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 1:47 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Scary Sysprogs >> >>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Nathan J Pfister wrote: >>> ------------------------ >>> SNIP___________________________________________ >>> That said, maybe I was just fortunate that I found my internship and >>> first post-college job within the Federal Government in which it is >>> nearly impossible to get fired, thus making change and new >>> ideas/people not as much of a threat as in private industry. >>> >>> >> Nathan: >> >> There are private sector companies that are similar (almost impossible to >> get fired). >> The cream does not rise to the top as the good people leave faster than one >> can get used to. >> The bad stifles all creativity and what is left is a garbage dump. >> >> SO I can only imagine what a government place is like and doubly wanting to >> stay away from such places. >> >> Ed >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > Thank you, > > Dan > > Dan Skwire > home phone 941-378-2383 > cell phone 941-400-7632 > office phone 941-227-6612 > primary email: [email protected] > secondary email: [email protected] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
