I NEVER accept PTFS - but for an entirely different reason

I like to build meaningful reports as to what has been applied - when applied, 
the corresponding APAR#, a description, is it hiper? The RSU to which it 
belongs, and the owning product affected by the PTF

To build this report - I run a LISTMCS to create a ptf/apar xref - BUT 
ACCEPTING the ptf removes entry from the MCS (when I ACCEPTED the FMIDs at 
instell time, I first captured the apar/ptf xref for the ptfs that were bundled 
with the install - otherwise - after our semi-annual RSU apply (we are limited 
in how often we can apply proactive maint) - I run my report - but ACCEPTING 
PTFS would limit the effectiveness of my report - I am amazed how often I get a 
call - do we have PMxxxxx installed? To save a trip the IBM website - the xref 
comes in handy 


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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Joel C. Ewing
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 10:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

I can't recall ever seeing such an ACCEPT recommendation from IBM,
probably because your own installation maintenance practices play such a
major role here.

The only reason for not ACCEPTing PTFs (USERMODS and APAR fixes should
typically never be accepted) is because you might need to RESTORE a PTF;
but if you have been successfully running with a PTF installed for
months, it is highly unlikely you would ever need to RESTORE it, and
even if some subsequent error HOLD was placed on the PTF, if it is not
an issue that has caused problems in your environment it is just as
likely that a resolving PTF will become available allowing you to go
forward in maintenance rather than having to back out the PTF.  I have
even had a few rare cases where I have bypassed an ERROR HOLD to force
an ACCEPT of a PTF and "clean up" a zone when the nature of the error
HOLD was such that it would clearly never be an issue for us.

The most likely point at which you might actually need to do a RESTORE
would be shortly after another mass APPLY of PTF's (not just any "next
APPLY").  Failure to ACCEPT previous mass maintenance for PTFs already
running in production sometime before doing the next mass APPLY means
any RESTORE after that point is likely to also force a back out of PTFs
with which you have been successfully running for months.  I would
expect this to add unnecessary risk by placing your system in
configurations further at variance from those with which IBM and others
(including your own installation) have done rigorous RSU-level testing.
        Joel C. Ewing

On 11/22/2013 05:30 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
> How about not until IBM tells you to?  As in "you must accept xxxx
> before apply this PTF"?
> 
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Staller, Allan <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> IMO, the short answer is just before the next APPLY.
>>
>> HTH,
>>



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Joel C. Ewing,    Bentonville, AR       [email protected] 

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