Diverting the thread a tad, does anyone know where you can do an HLASM
course? My young colleague wants to be inducted into the mysteries of the
ancient craft and we found various IBM courses (see below) but none of them
are currently being offered. Of course, various outfits are happy to come to
your shop and give one-on-one instruction, but HR won't wear the expense of
that.

ES10AGB
http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/gb/en?pageType=c
ourse_description&courseCode=ES10AGB 
ES34GB
http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/gb/en?pageType=c
ourse_description&courseCode=ES34GB 
ES35GB
http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/gb/en?pageType=c
ourse_description&courseCode=ES35GB 

He is in the UK but travel would not be a problem. Any suggestions
gratefully received!

Thanks
-Robin

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Clark Morris
Sent: 05 November 2013 10:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

On 4 Nov 2013 11:49:17 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>They said "enough" -- just because some are doesn't mean there's "enough"!

Somehow I got into the field with only 1 course in Numerical Analysis and
Programming for Digital Computers (2 semesters) in 1961 and 1 course in
Symbolic Logic.  I was lucky that my company sent me to several IBM course
and from 1977 to 1990 to SHARE.  Should Colleges and Universities be
teaching vendor specific operating systems? Should they be teaching the
basic concepts of operating systems and of security?

Clark Morris

 
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>Ted MacNEIL
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>-----Original Message-----
>From:         George Rodriguez <[email protected]>
>Sender:       IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>
>Date:         Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:58:04 
>To: <[email protected]>
>Reply-To:     IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
>
>That's not 100% true...
>
>"Schools aren't training enough mainfarmers."
>
>There's a program in North Carolina that's teaching TSO, Cobol, JCL, etc...
>and graduates are being hired by businesses that are using mainframe 
>computer systems.
>
>We in south Florida were thinking of offering the same programs...
>

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