Andrew,

If you have RLS in place (Record Level Sharing), that will be lost on a COLD
start.  So, just have the information available when you IPL from a D
SMS,SMSVSAM,ALL  command.

You will need it to put it back.

Lizette


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Metcalfe
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:51 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Possible To Remove Both CFRM Couple datasets?
> 
> Barbara
> 
> Definitely no CFRM policy active - D XCF tells me so.
> I did suspect that I would need to do a cold (newly formatted Sysplex CDS)
sysplex-
> wide IPL. It's only a infrastructure (SDM) sysplex so it shouldn't be that
big a deal to
> correct it.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: 17 October 2013 14:14
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Possible To Remove Both CFRM Couple datasets?
> 
> > We have (by oversight) an active base sysplex with CFRM couple datasets
> defined in COUPLExx. As it is a base sysplex there is obviously no active
CFRM
> policy.
> Are you sure you don't have an active CFRM policy? The policy that was
last active
> on those CFRM CDSs would have been activated, no matter if the CFs defined
to it
> are there or not.
> 
> You could try setxcf stop,policy,type=cfrm
> 
> (caution - I have never tried it before).
> 
> > Is there any way to remove the CFRM dataset definitions from the running
> sysplex without a sysplex-wide IPL to re-drive COUPLExx once the
definitions have
> been removed?
> Not that I know. Even worse, even if you do a sysplex-wide IPL and have
the
> CFRM CDSs physically deleted (so they're not there anymore) and removed
from
> COUPLExx a D XCF will still show them as defined/active/available
(*there*)
> because that information is kept in the sysplex CDS. At least this was the
way it
> worked about 10 years ago when I tried to get rid of the unused CDSs in
the D XCF
> display. I haven't deliberately retested it. Back then, I could only get
rid of those
> displays by doing a sysplex wide true cold start with a freshly formatted
sysplex
> CDSs. At about the same time I lost any awe I may have had at the prospect
of a
> sysplex wide cold start.
> 
> Barbara
> 
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