It isn't just the raw library conversion that is an issue for large shops.  It 
is also the "plumbing", the everyday compile and debugging procedures and 
tools.  Consider the SDLC tool to start with, which may be commercial 
(requiring the shop to wait on the vendor for appropriate changes and then the 
normal rash of testing and QA requirements before the new product version can 
be implemented) or which may be home-grown, requiring active changes by often 
scarce (and due to experienced retirements and/or layoffs, far less 
knowledgeable of the design and execution of the "plumbing" tools) internal 
personnel, requiring prioritization of time and talents that may or may not be 
available due to more pressing business requirements, or even if available, 
able to accomplish the needed changes in a timely manner.

As usual, the devil is in the details, regardless of the desirability of the 
end result.  Implementation bureaucracy has real value when changes can 
introduce instability costing clients and companies real money, but also 
extends the time it takes to implement even desirable results.

"Conservative" shops, in the pejorative sense that you use, have real cost 
concerns that drive their conservative approach to change.  Whether the ROI of 
a change is positive is not the issue; "plumbing" changes like those being 
introduced by COBOL 5.1 take time and talent away from legitimate, immediate 
business needs too.

All that said, I tend to agree with you that the changes are a positive for the 
future.  I just won't hold my breath while I wait to see them for myself.

Peter

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of John Gilmore
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 10:06 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 and tools like COBOL 5.1, Fault Analyzer, Debug Tool, etc

Shane's surmise that the PDSE requirement for COBOL 5.1 executables
will slow its adoption in many shops is certainly correct.  All such
requirements do so.

Where Shane and I differ, and I suspect that this difference is
visceral, is that I am radically impatient with the "conservatism" of
these shops, which is making them irrelevant, and he is [legitimately]
preoccupied with their current, detailed, operational problems.

I do not, of course, deny that there are such problems.  They are
always with us.   Nirvana will not obtain when the current batch have
been resolved.  They will be succeeded by others of much the same
sort.  The existence of a set of these problems, whatever its current
makeup may be, is not, however, an argument for stasis.

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