I've always assumed that an edit macro wouldn't have access if called via the
TSO command; I'd be interested in the results if somrone tries it.
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Subject: Re: Edit macro CHANGE not preseriving case
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It would process without erroring if it were invoked by TSO macname instead of
just macname.
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Phil Smith III
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Ok, ok, it "ran" but it didn't function. Doesn't answer my question, which was:
Is there some setting that might be suppressing that error
That would explain his results: it didn't do anything because it lacked the
MACRO statement.
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All of this is output from the macro:
* Command in error . : CAPS OFF *
* *
* Command not executed *
* An ISREDIT MACRO statement must precede any executable statements. *
* *
* Error message ID . : ISRE741 *
* *
* Last return code . : 28 *
* *
* Macro executing . : CX *
* *
* Press ENTER key to terminate the macro. *
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Sorry, where? I see one post that shows the macro, no messages? I'm missing
something!!
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I know that because the messages say that the macro was running.
The issues for CLIST and REXX are different.
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Right...sorry, not trying to sound pissy, but what's your point? How do we know
that? Why didn't he get the error I did? Why (at least with the MACRO
statement) does it work for others? I think we still have some mysteries here!
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The macro did run, it just didn't do what OP expected.
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Huh, I just assumed he was right about it not working. If I try to run it as OP
had it, with no MACRO statement, I get:
******************************************************************************
* *
* Command in error . : CAPS OFF *
* *
* Command not executed *
* An ISREDIT MACRO statement must precede any executable statements. *
* *
* Error message ID . : ISRE741 *
* *
* Last return code . : 28 *
* *
* Macro executing . : CX *
* *
* Press ENTER key to terminate the macro. *
* *
* *
* *
******************************************************************************
Is there some setting that might be suppressing that error, such that the real answer is
"Your macro didn't really even run"?
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Schmitt, Michael
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 3:09 PM
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Subject: Re: Edit macro CHANGE not preseriving case
There's something more subtle going on. And, the original example works for me:
/* REXX */
address ISREDIT
"MACRO"
CAPS OFF
CHANGE 'AAA' 'Aaa' ALL
exit
If I execute it on itself I get:
/* REXX */
address ISREDIT
"MACRO"
CAPS OFF
CHANGE 'Aaa' 'Aaa' ALL
exit
which is as expected.
Yes, it is treating CAPS, OFF, CHANGE, and ALL as variables, so they have their own
uppercase value. But 'AAA' and 'Aaa" are literals, not variables. So the
command to Edit should be:
CHANGE AAA Aaa ALL
And Edit preserves entered case on the "to" string of a change command; it is
same as CHANGE AAA c'Aaa' ALL.
So why didn't it work for the original poster?
Note: I'm on z/OS 2.5.
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Phil Smith III
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 12:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Edit macro CHANGE not preseriving case
Assuming your code is Rexx, what you're missing is that your double quotes are
being consumed by Rexx. What you're passing on the CHANGE is:
(variable) ISREDIT
(space)
(variable) CHANGE
(space)
(literal) LOWER
(space)
(literal) lower
(space)
(variable) WORD
(space)
(variable) ALL
Now, none of those variables have (presumably) been set, so their values are
the uppercase versions of the variable name. Thus what ISPF sees is:
ISREDIT CHANGE LOWER LOWER WORD ALL
In other words, your quotes aren't getting to ISPF. Hence the quotes in Chip's
version:
"ISREDIT CHANGE 'LOWER' 'lower' word all"
That makes the ENTIRE command a literal to Rexx, so it gets passed as is (minus
the single quotes), and ISPF sees what you want it to see.
Make sense? This is basic Rexx stuff but gets confusing with ISPF in the mix
because of the quotes thing. My usual rule of thumb is to use single quotes for
Rexx literals, so I can use the double quotes inside for ISPF. You could also
double the quotes, but that gets super-fugly and even more confusing:
ISREDIT CHANGE """LOWER""" """lower""" word all
That will mean ISPF sees:
(variable) ISREDIT
(space)
(variable) CHANGE
(space)
(literal) "
(literal) LOWER
(literal) "
(space)
(literal) "
(literal) lower
(literal) "
(space)
(variable) WORD
(space)
(variable) ALL
In Rexx, it's a very good idea to ALWAYS know what's a literal and what's a
variable and to quote all literals. It not only avoids problems but is also
more efficient.
(The "problems" part comes when you have that line as you wrote it working, and
then someone assigns variable LOWER to some value and all hell breaks loose!)
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Steely.Mark
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 1:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Edit macro CHANGE not preseriving case
I have the same issue - this is the code I use:
ISREDIT MACRO
ISREDIT CAPS OFF
ISREDIT CHANGE "LOWER" "lower" word all
ISREDIT RESET
EXIT CODE(0)
I did test the REXX version below and that did work - is there a way to get
this version to work ?
Thank You
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Thank you! As a long-time XEDIT maven I'd been looking for such a book, for
some reason never found it before. 488pp, that'll take a while to digest...
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Grantham, Chip
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 12:42 PM
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Subject: Re: Edit macro CHANGE not preseriving case
Google z/OS 3.1 ISPF Edit and Edit Macros
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Phil Smith III
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 11:37 AM
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Subject: Re: Edit macro CHANGE not preseriving case
What does
'Macro ()'
do? Pointer to doc would be great if you have it!
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Grantham, Chip
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 12:32 PM
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Subject: Re: Edit macro CHANGE not preseriving case
Try this:
/* REXX */
address isredit
'Macro ()'
'CAPS OFF'
'CHANGE "AAA" "Aaa"' all
Exit
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ITschak Mugzach
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 11:25 AM
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Subject: Edit macro CHANGE not preseriving case
I wrote a simple edit macro to change the case of a text. but it is still
keeping the old case and not folding to lower case. for example:
/* Rexx */
Address ISREDIT
CAPS OFF
CHANGE 'AAA' 'Aaa' ALL
What am I doing wrong?
ITschak Mugzach
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