Because it’s not perfect in the 2nd inning, like Metz says, is not because it’s a flawed product. It’s because the inputs aren’t perfect. It will write HLASM code better than any human by the time the 9th inning is here. And as I’ve said before, HLASM skills have been in decline for decades and will eventually become obsolete. Practically every major IT company in the world has an AI component in development. If not, they will make themselves irrelevant.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, August 28, 2025, 9:08 PM, Steve Thompson <ste...@wkyr.net> wrote: I'm not so sure it has the smarts today to generate assembly language statements that are correct and logical until we go through another generation or two (Versions in product speak). I've been looking at it in reading IRS alc and trying to turn that in to Java. I was told the java was nearly undecipherable by the people who were well versed in java. And even then, they were not able to make some changes to it that did what they wanted. Meanwhile, I'm afraid of AI becoming too "good". I keep remembering the books I read in HS from Isaac Asimov and postitronic brains and having to implement the rules of robotics. Basically, I see a bad moon rising.... -- Regards, Steve Thompson MAGA: Make Assembly Language Great Again On 8/28/2025 8:44 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Just because it's overhyped doesn't mean that it's not useful. And just > because it doesn't have understanding today doesn't mean that it never will. > Making a pun on the name doesn't mean that I consider it useless or > unimportant. > > The issues generating HLASM code are real, but that stems from inadequate > data during training rather than design defects. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > nmaxik...@yahoo.com <000008873aa64554-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2025 8:09 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Artificial stupidity in action > > > External Message: Use Caution > > > The same people who said the mainframe is dead in 1993, are likely the same > ones now downplaying AI. NVIDIA is the highest market cap company that ever > existed. What do they make? Graphics Processing Units for AI data centers. > Who is buying them? The largest tech companies in the world. AI is here and > it’s going to impact everything. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, August 17, 2025, 8:59 AM, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > How good is the training? Can it generate a working HLASM program? Locate > specific editions of PoOps? > > i tried CoPilot only because it was part of my mandatory training this year. > i was curious whether it would mess up as badly as ChaatGPT (It's a typo. > That's my story and I'm sticking to it.) > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > Pommier, Rex <00000737643a508d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2025 10:49 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Artificial stupidity in action > > > External Message: Use Caution > > > How about the best of both worlds - google AI? I went searching for a very > specific "can I do this" type question regarding surcharges on retail > purchases with credit cards and a specific CC clearinghouse. Google AI came > back with a "yes you can do that" and about 3 items down the hit list, the > specific clearing house' web site pops up with "no you can't do that". > > Rex > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of > Matt Hogstrom > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2025 4:38 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Artificial stupidity in action > > Let’s be honest. It’s not sentient. Processed a lot of information and > indexes it to define relationships and is a better search than google. > Apart from that I think people are expecting perfection but it is imperfect > but pretty dang impressive > > On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 17:34 Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > >> Well, the judge thought that submitting briefs with bogus citations >> was pretty cheesy. >> >> -- >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mason.gmu.edu/*smetz3__;fg!!KjMRP1I >> xj6eLE0Fj!o_VDCnJjynb2bLfg3a11_uUWQ7D6fOm5XPAHuwxjVSyRa1TXm8EZK0TBPkbq >> Iq9QkXgdysUR5N9aWYQ8nUZqrh1AdEOYmjoWbmAO$ >> עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי >> נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on >> behalf of Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org> >> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2025 4:58 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> >> Subject: Re: Artificial stupidity in action >> >> >> External Message: Use Caution >> >> >> On Fri, 15 Aug 2025, at 19:42, Seymour J Metz wrote: >>> ... when they submitted AI-generated brie that contained >> AI can make cheese? >> >> -- >> Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
