On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 12:56:02 +0000, Peter Relson wrote:

><snip>I repeat, RMODE is irrelevant unless specifically mentioned in the doc. 
>The OP said it was not mentioned in WTO, therefore RMODE is irrelevant!</snip>
>Sorry, but very wrong!
>If RMODE 64 is not mentioned, then you are expected NOT to invoke the service 
>from a program above 2G.This is the same as: if AMODE 64 is not mentioned, 
>then you are expected NOT to invoke the service in AMODE 64. It is similar to: 
>if data above the bar is not mentioned as valid even if AMODE 64 is valid then 
>you are expected NOT to use data above the bar.
>Might an RMODE 64 invocation work? Yes. Fairly likely if the service is 
>SVC-entered or PC-entered, not as likely if it is branch-entered.Might an 
>RMODE 64 invocation stop working (i.e., break) at any point in the future 
>(including. albeit unlikely, in service)? Yes
>Even in the cases where it appears to "work", not everything might be as 
>desired (such as diagnostic data about the return address of a caller within a 
>log or trace or message)
>If you want to risk it (and put your customers at such risk), that cannot be 
>stopped.
><snip>The only 2 services that are documented as RMODE64 are load and synch
></snip>That is not correct (i.e., it is incomplete)For example, GETMAIN 
>documents:
>| RMODE: | For SVC-entry, includes 64-bit |
>
How many subscribers to this list are likely to see the
joyous day when all services are supported in the
highest available AMODE/RMDE (still 64 by then?),
and even the initiator EXECs PGMs  with 8-byte
parameter addresses and they can be oblivious to
the lower modes?

I fear I won't make it.

Isn't Linux already there?

-- 
gil

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