Bear in mind that in today's environment a simple ( 3 line ? ) 3270 emulator 
macro can get around any SDSF auto update restriction.

Rob Scott
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Thanks Rob,
What tipped them off was the AUPDT parm.
Previously, they had a parmlib setting of 10, so that you could not set an auto 
update (refresh) of an SDSF screen to move frequently than 10 seconds. After 
they could.
I told them there likely were a lot more to look at. Not my shop, but I may be 
on a call later today. I’ll view your information.
Thanks again, very much appreciated!
R

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> SDSF 2.5+ will use SAF instead of internal (ISFPRMxx / ISFPARMS) security.
>
> There is a recent presentation on how SDSF 2.5 security works with SAF in the 
> IBM Education GitHub :
>
> github.com/IBM/IBM-Z-zOS/tree/main/zOS-Education/<http://github.com/IBM/IBM-Z-zOS/tree/main/zOS-Education>
>
> If you have migrated from non-SAF to SAF security, there is quite a lot of 
> migration considerations especially if you have not previously activated the 
> OPERCMDS and JESSPOOL classes.
>
> Other customization options in the ISFPRMxx GROUP statement should behave as 
> previously.
>
> One thing to check is that users are being placed into their expected SDSF 
> groups as the selection criteria is now ONLY that they have SAF READ access 
> to the SDSF class profile “GROUP.name.server”. Previously criteria like 
> userid or TSO logon proc name are no longer used.
>
> Do you have specific issues that you can expand on ?
>
> Rob Scott
> Rocket Software
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> Hello,
> Friends recently upgraded 2.4 to 2.5, and found that some previous controls 
> (eg.AUPDT) no longer work as before. I said I believe those controls moved 
> from parmlib to RACF.
> We’re getting mixed feedback on that theory.
> What say you?
> Am I half right/wrong?
> Are there exits, mods, exceptions, caveats, etc. that should be considered?
> Thanks much!
> R.
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