We have one DS8950 as our primary box.  Our other DS8950 is collocated and
it is in a MM relationship with the primary box.    We have one DS8950 at
our DR site which is in a GM relationship with the primary DS8950.    We
only have the one MM box.   So you are saying we don’t need ENABLE(PPRCMT).
  Correct?

On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 9:41 PM David Shackelford <[email protected]> wrote:

> When there are multiple Metro Mirror targets, the ENABLE(PPRCMT) is needed
> to ensure all the MM functions are enabled.
>
> The preserve mirror required function will only keep one of the two MM
> pairs in duplex, the other pair will go duplex pending for the target of
> the FlashCopy.
> The GM pair, being async, is already pending except for the brief points
> where it makes each consistency point.  The FlashCopy target data is
> mirrored over between consistency points.
>
> Regards,
> David Shackelford
> DFSMS Development, IBM
>
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 13:31:45 -0500, Michael Babcock <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >We have a Multi-Target MetroGlobal Mirror (MTMGM).   It seems to be
> >working fine.  Do we need to have ENABLE(PPRCMT) coded as well?  I see
> >the default is DISABLE(PPRCMT).
> >
> >
> >On 9/30/2024 11:00 AM, ERNESTO FIGUEROA wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Flashcopy onto Global Mirror was enabled with OA57173.  You can find
> the details here: https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/apar/OA57173
> >>
> >> With the PTFs installed, an update to the DEVSUPxx parmlib to add
> ‘ENABLE(FLASHCOPYTOGM)’, will honor the volumes as Flashcopy capable.
> >>
> >> I hope this helps,
> >>
> >>
> >> Ernesto E. Figueroa
> >> DFSMSdss Product Owner
> >>
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on
> behalf of Michael Babcock <[email protected]>
> >> Date: Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:30 PM
> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: MTMGM and Flashcopy
> >> Yes, I saw the FCTOPPRCPRIMARY.   We do need to worry about the primary
> >> going into duplex pending so need to add PMR.    I was hoping to find
> >> someone that said restrictions had been lifted and didn’t need to worry
> >> about it.
> >> We will do some testing with FCTOPPRCPRIMARY(PMR).
> >>
> >>   Thanks!
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 9:54 AM Pommier, Rex <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Not sure if this would help.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=flashcopy-pprc-primary
> >>>
> >>> Rex
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> Behalf
> >>> Of Michael Babcock
> >>> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 7:39 AM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: MTMGM and Flashcopy
> >>>
> >>> No one knows the answer to this?
> >>>
> >>> On 9/13/2024 9:43 AM, Michael Babcock wrote:
> >>>> We currently have a MTMGM (Multi-target, Metro Global Mirror)
> >>>> implementation.    Most of our volumes are in this MTMGM
> >>>> configuration, however we have a few that are not.   We have a volume,
> >>>> say at address A000, that is not part of the MTMGM nor part of any
> >>>> other copyset.  We have a batch job that copies to this A000 address
> >>>> using FASTREPLICATION(PREFERRED), so it uses flashcopy and the job
> >>>> completes very quickly.    Back in 2019, we decided to add this A000
> >>>> volume to a metro mirror copyset.   When the batch job ran, it
> >>>> couldn't use flashcopy and fell back to standard data movement.  This
> >>>> extended our batch window and is not acceptable.  I don't remember
> >>>> exactly what the error was but vaguely recall it was something about
> >>>> not being able to use FC to a target when that target was also a PPRC
> >>>> source.
> >>>>
> >>>> Has anything changed with regard to using FC to a volume that is part
> >>>> of the MTMGM or any other copyset?
> >>>>
> >>>> MTMGM:   Our config is we have one DS8950 as our primary DASD box, we
> >>>> have another DS8950 being used as a Metro Mirror box colocated with
> >>>> the primary and we have a third DS8886 (soon to be a new DS8950) box
> >>>> at a remote site using Global Mirror.   We use MTMGM to replicate from
> >>>> the primary to the MM box and using GM to the remote box.
> >>>>
> >>>> We really want to add the other volumes to the MTMGM but don't want to
> >>>> affect the batch Flashcopies to those other volumes. Clear as mud?
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