That's a good point. I've been running with the log data set process option set 
to 2 "Delete data set (without printing)" for so long I forgot about option 3 
"Keep data set (append subsequent information to same data set)".

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Paul Feller
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 6:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ISPF/PDF list/log file allocations

I've seen this type of issue happen when a user never logs off TSO/ISPF 
successfully.  I've seen people have days and even weeks of information in the 
log dataset.

I believe it can also happen if the settings don't delete the datasets when 
exiting TSO/ISPF.


Paul

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Schmitt, Michael
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 5:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ISPF/PDF list/log file allocations

Any user can change their own log / list defaults in the ISPF settings.

It is harder if it is running ISPF in batch.

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of 
Albertus de Wet <[email protected]>
Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, September 16, 2024 at 5:26 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: ISPF/PDF list/log file allocations

PS. It's a COBOL programmer whos LOG dataset is filling up. I do not know what 
they are doing (sometimes I wonder if they do)

On Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 16:24 Albertus de Wet 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Thanks.
I did look at the physical dataset allocation, therefore the pri, sec space 
allocations.

I will look there - thanks.

On Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 15:00 Schmitt, Michael 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:

It is in the System Profile (ISPSPROF) settings, Log and List Defaults. I think 
the IBM defaults are:

LOG_PAGES_PRIMARY_QUANTITY       = 10
LOG_PAGES_SECONDARY_QUANTITY     = 10

But what you said is odd...

- The quantity is in "pages", not tracks.
- Not a lot gets logged to the log. It is basically TSO commands entered by the 
user, or via menus. I'm a heavy ISPF user with a LOT of custom menus and 
applications and I never run out of log space.
- The LIST file isn't written to AT ALL unless a user does a command that uses 
the LIST and directs the output to it

So I'm wondering what is going on at your site that would fill up the log or 
list data set.


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Where can the settings for ISPF-LOG and -LIST files be changed?
The default we have is pri: 150trks, sec.10trks. Some of our users are running 
out of space (E37 abends).

Thanks

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