Peter,

I don't remember what you're trying to uncompress, but here, I have 2 ZFS 
datasets that I used when I loaded z/OS 3.1.  They are SMS managed (I have 
heard conflicting information about whether they need to be SMS managed or 
not).  They are both defined with SPACE(CYL(32750 32750) ).  Loading 3.1 down 
and decompressing it pushed my NTS onto the second volume and the work zFS onto 
the third volume.  So, yes, these things get big.  And you definitely want to 
make sure you have the //SMPWKDIR defined.

Rex


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Peter
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 12:49 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Smp receive error due to space

I tried with zfs primary 10000 and secondary 10000 but still it fails with no 
space.

The multivolume works only in SMS managed ?

On Mon, 26 Aug 2024, 09:19 Brian Westerman, < 
000006ba4ed225c9-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Increasing the dataset you are increasing (SMPNTS) is only necessary 
> if you run out of space when downloading the service from IBM, your 
> problem is decompressing the compressed files that you already 
> downloaded, so you only need to increase the //SMPWKDIR (defaults to 
> /TMP) space.  The one you use for "normal" operation is just too small 
> for the service you are installing, and that happens a lot, especially 
> with very large service like Java updates.
>
> I always allocate a new ZFS for service related temp space and don't 
> use the "normal" /tmp space (which is typically a tfs and not a "real" 
> zfs dataset anyway.)
>
> Just create a ZFS at about the size of your normal SMPNTS zfs dataset, 
> then create a new USS directory (use permissions of 777) called "TEMP" 
> and mount the new zfs to that directory, then in your receive order or 
> Receive from NTS job, add the following DD.
>
> //SMPWKDIR DD  PATHDISP=KEEP,PATH='/TEMP'   (use the original /tmp ONLY if
> extracts are small enough)
>
> Typically I allocate the /TEMP ZFS as 10,000 primary and 10,000 
> secondary CYLS, and call it "OMVS.TEMP.ZFS" which should be big enough 
> for just about anything.
>
> When you are done, just unmount and delete the new ZFS "OMVS.TEMP.ZFS".
>
> It doesn't really matter what name you call the ZFS, so long as you 
> tell SMPE that the //SMPWKDIR is to be allocated to the /TEMP 
> directory that you mounted it to.  Then the service job will use that 
> new "temporary" zfs that you created for decompression, instead of the 
> (probably much smaller) /tmp dataset.
>
> It's difficult to tell ahead of time how much temp space will be 
> necessary to decompress the PTFs, that's why I always make a new one.  
> There is no reason to keep it around when you are done with it, it 
> will just take up space that you can use for other things.  You 
> especially don't want HSM to back it up or archive it because that will just 
> waste resources.
>
> Brian
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