Hi Jerry,
I never faced an issue that caused to use SMP/e to fix (outside of ACTIVATOR).
I also never faced issues like this with (OMEGAMON) CICAT or ParmGen.

Regards,
David

On 2024-07-22 13:39, Jerry Whitteridge wrote:
Dave
The key to Aggravator was understanding SMP/E enough that when things broke you 
could go around in back of it and repair using standard SMP/E

I didn't object to it but it certainly gave me aggravation at times.

Jerry Whitteridge
Sr Manager Managed Services
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David Spiegel
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Hi Jerry,
I actually liked CA-ACTIVATOR. The problem with CA's strategy was that
each product area supplied their own CA-90s code. For example, if ACF2
and CA-1 provided CA-90s modules, the results might change depending
upon the sequence of APPLYs.

When CA figured this out, CA-90s code was supplied only by the CA-90s
group. Alas, it was slightly too late.

Regards,
David

On 2024-07-22 11:56, Jerry Whitteridge wrote:
I really think the Windows folks deserve CA-Aggravator on top of their SMP/E

Jerry Whitteridge
Sr Manager Managed Services
jerry.whitteri...@albertsons.com
480 578 7889

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Phil Smith III
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Gil wrote:
But these things happen. I heard of a product that crashed
reproducibly at customer sites having 8 or more tape drives.
Who does that in a test lab!>
Exactly. The real problem here isn't that *gasp* there was a software problem: 
it's that nobody thought about how things could fail and how to back it out 
gracefully.

My recommendation: SMP/E for Windows! /s

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