It is not matter of belief. I just performed a test.
FTP GUI from IBM, part of PCOMM.
Note, it is IBM. More: it is part of PCOMM. They know z/OS, etc.
1. I tried to move/copy some directory.
2. I tried to create a directory on host side.
In both case a PDS was created. I cannot choose RECFM, LRECL, directory
blocks, primary or secondary space. That should end the story.
In case #1 none of files was transmitted because the name was not
conforming member naming rules. Hint: it is very rare to have such files
(no extension) in Windows.
In any case when you download a PDS to PC and upload it again to (maybe
another) z/OS image you will get *different* thing.
Maybe it would be sufficient for test members with "this is a test"
content, but definitely not for source code of binary content.
Oh, did I mention there is no choice of codepages?
Of course I know how to use XMIT... but again - how to edit the content
on PC side? I assume it is regular text content. Just change HLQ is some
job, one of many.
I can manage all of such issues, but I am definitely not a newbie.
The only thing I still cannot do is to convince my students the
z/OS<->PC data exchange is easy and well tooled.
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
W dniu 20.05.2024 o 16:26, Tony Thigpen pisze:
I can't believe you put a GUI FTP client in a list of not-acceptable
options. If that does not work for you, you are just too picky.
Tony Thigpen
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote on 5/19/24 3:07 PM:
Which platform? ALL. That means Windows, Linux and Mac.
We can omit OS/2 or VMS or DG-UX or QNX or etc.
Which codepages? All. Let's say all supported by z/OS when using FTP
or iconv.
FTP GUI clients? Yet another XMIT viewer? Both do not satisfy all the
needs.
Last but not least - nowadays it is harder and harder to manage
permissions for installation of some homegrown piece of software. It
is quite feasible to convince security guys to get permission for
installation of IBM product, downloadable from IBM site, but try the
same with XMIT manager downloadable from... "the page does no longer
exists, but you know, there is some freeware page, called
cbttape...". Yes, it is much harder. BTDT.
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
W dniu 18.05.2024 o 23:32, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
On Sat, 18 May 2024 23:15:26 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
...
Yes, we have some freeware XMIT viewers, we have some homegrown REXX
scripts, etc.
for which desktop target platforms?
But it is continuous reinventing the wheel.
IMHO it is up to IBM to assign few folks for few weeks to prepare such
tools. It need not to be officially supported.
IBM invest a lot of effort in z/OSMF and other "modernization", but
such
simple things like PDS to directory are still left.
for which desktop target platforms?
But if it's Java, it might be nonpartisan.
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