Hi Bill,
I can relate to your suspicions about password managers. Not to long ago
Lastpass found out that they have been hacked, which must have been a big
problem for its end users (which, fortunately I am not). On the other hand,
I have way too many passwords to be manageable without a password manager.
So, I use not one, but two. With different master passwords. And using a
password manager will not prevent you from sharing passwords with trusted
friends. I usually tell my colleagues that use excel or notepad to keep
their passwords to try and use keepass. It is as easy to use as those
methods but far for secure.
Regards
Jack


On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 at 14:01, billogden <billog...@optonline.net> wrote:

> My trivial comments:
>
> 1. Using a password manager seems to be putting all our eggs in one basket.
> What if that basket fails? Is it secure? Can I always access it? If we need
> to make a particular password available to a "trusted" friend (at some
> indefinite time), how should we manage that.
> 2. I have about 60+ passwords noted (on a paper, not in view of any camera)
> for various sites. Some have not been used in years, some are used
> frequently. I rather expect than very few of us (on this site) have a tiny
> number of passwords that can manage everything we need to do.
> 3. Minimum 16 characters, upper & lower case, numbers, symbols --- this can
> be very obscure to all the "computer uneducated" people that try to use the
> many services available via the web. We are expected to remember these?
> Many
> PWs are needed to avoid using the same PW for too many purposes.
> 4. Like most of us (on this site) I place tape over the camera lenses on
> all
> my systems.
> 5. Github? Being old and stupid, I have not used it yet. On my z/OS systems
> (that often run odd versions of z/OS, etc, etc) I really do not want to
> depend on a web service for program source code, etc, etc. A nice SMALL
> book
> that covers the most basic, practical uses of github (for a gethub
> beginner)
> without going into all the really wonderful things that might be done with
> it, would be handy. To me, a basic book would illustrate the specific web
> commands, the specific z/OS JCL, the specific TSO actions to install and
> perform basic operations in a simple/practical manner.
> 6. Too much obscure/difficult security == insecurity?  Amen, Amen, Amen.
> The
> IT executives seem to be in a terrific rush to go down this path. (Also,
> "too much security" seems to actually diminish the time available to
> create/improve application code, etc.)
> 7. "Trusted" (in the meanings used on this site) can be a very very complex
> concept!
>
> Bill Ogden
> z/OS old, old time z/OS person (started on OS/360 option 1), but still
> active (to some extent)!
>
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