Admittedly the initial VSAM had warts, but the first cut at ICF was so bad that IBM had to withdraw it.
I never understood the intent behind the 3850; why only 3330V and not, e.g., 3350V, 3375V? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Edward Gould <000004bcc43af339-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Fwd: What is the PDS command? > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> > Subject: Re: What is the PDS command? > Date: January 4, 2024 at 6:22:39 AM CST > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > Paper?! For, e.g., SYSABEND, SYSUDUMP, on SPOOL you can at least do a search > for, e.g., eyecatchers, key addresses. On paper a large dump is unmanageable. > > When you're swamped is precisely when you need good tools. Not having PDS86 > is bad; not having IPCS is intolerable. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > Seymour: Needless to say we had a lot of politics gong during this time. We hated VSAM as ti was a mess. Europe didn’t want it either. I was the repository for standalone dumps. We had a MSS but I have long forgotten the model number but IIRC it was a medium-to-large MSS. The two sysprogs that were dedicated to it were swamped with work. I disliked VSAM (this w before ICF) and we ended up with sam volume ownership and the MSS people were at wits end with it. I still remember taking a call from IBM (all our MSS people were taking a day off) I started to talk with the guy and they wanted me to zap the MSVI(?) I knew a little about it after talking with the MSS people. I zapped it and everything started to work (again) The following day I told the MSS people what I had done (since they weren’t around). Because of the MSS and enque issues we must have taken at least 40 dumps and shipped them off to boulder (IIRC). IBM ended uo rewriting ENQUE and another component(allocation). We were lucky as we had a great IBM team and we had a couple leave IBM -Chicago and go out either West to the JES3 (we were Jes2 and did not understand that at all) Others went to GBURG and one went to the dasd in (CA?). Without them we would have truly been in a world of hurt). I think they have all retired by now. Ed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
