As a contractor on the applications side, I have to live with whatever policies 
they set, and have no leverage. It's not comfortable, but it is what it is.

IAC, I would be more upset if resources that actually were critical were not 
adequately protected. The cases that you described were horrifying.

Copying from another installation would be legal if it did not violate local 
security policy. Further, I agree with a paranoid approach to outside code, 
absent official scrutiny and clearance, although it remains inconvenient.

--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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Subject: Re: Checking status of multiple datasets in CLIST and REXX

W dniu 29.12.2023 o 19:29, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 18:10:08 +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
>> I'm in an applications role and installing external software, e.g., PDS86, 
>> is not allowed.
>>
>> I just discovered that I don't even have access to SYS1.SAMPLIB.
>>
> !?!?!?  What terrifies them?  "Need to know" gone berserk?  Fear of copyright 
> infringement?

Well, obviously I don't know the answer, however I saw cases where the
answer was mess. Or sometimes "AI is no match for  natural stupidity".
Example: STGADMIN IMPORT strictly prohibited, but ...ALTER to RACF db.
Some DISPLAY commands prohibited (and no chance to change it), but $JES2
commands not protected at all.
UACC(ALTER) to APF library, fully qualified generic profile.
etc.

BTW: SYS1.SAMPLIB is a big PDS with text members. It is copyrighted, but
it is included in z/OS license. So, it is possible and legal to copy
such PDS from other system, i.e. sandbox. Assumption: a user is allowed
to put/get datasets...

--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland

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