I suspect that there was a game of telegraph, whereby crucial details got lost.

It is normal to allocate page datasets in a user catalog that will eventually 
be used as a master catalog. I'm suspicious of the claim that z/OS can use  a 
page dataset that is not in its own master catalog, but I can't rule it out.

Wasn't there a song called "Charlie on the MLA"?

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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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The Initialization and Tuning Reference seems to say otherwise.
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=ieasysxx-page

"Usually, page data sets specified by any means must have been allocated, 
cataloged in the system's master catalog, and preformatted in VSAM format 
before an IPL can start."

"It is unnecessary to specify either UNIT or VOLSER because all page data sets 
must be cataloged in the system's master catalog."

It might be possible to use PAGEADD to add a page data set that is cataloged in 
a user catalog, but I wouldn't be surprised if that leads to problems at the 
next IPL

Surely, at CLPA time the Catalog address space is not yet available.

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Tom Marchant

On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 17:32:26 +0000, Mark Jacobs <markjac...@protonmail.com> 
wrote:

>Our storage administrator had told me that in a previous organization they 
>successfully used page datasets that were cataloged in a user catalog rather 
>that in the master catalog by using an MLA in the MCAT. I tried it in our 
>sandbox environment (2.5) and it didn't work. I had never heard of doing this 
>before and I had my doubts, but wanted to try it anyway. Has anyone else tried 
>it and gotten it to work?

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