Doubt IBM did.    IBM just packages in smpe what rocket gives them, I assume.   
Search service link for git you will find the ptf

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IBM removed cURL with a PTF? Wow. It sounds like you found a solution - going 
to the anaconda site that Rocket's miniconda uses and grabbing manually. I do 
understand why Rocket would want to use anaconda/miniconda, since it handles 
things


IBM removed cURL with a PTF? Wow.

It sounds like you found a solution - going to the anaconda site that Rocket's 
miniconda uses and grabbing manually.

I do understand why Rocket would want to use anaconda/miniconda, since it 
handles things like dependencies and other actions needed for installation.   
They also want to distinguish their support vs free so it's understandable why 
they leave things out.

Do you have an option of using a sandbox LPAR that *is* on the internet to 
manage Rocket packages and updates?  Then you could backup the filesystem and 
move it to your air gapped systems.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
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On Fri, Nov 3, 2023, at 6:44 PM, Jousma, David wrote:
> We do pay for GIT client support through IBM, which I realize is actually 
> rocket support behind the scenes.    cURL used to come packaged with GIT 
> client but was removed with IBM ptf.
>
> I was able to just go to the public anaconda website, and download the cURL 
> tarball, upload it, and expand it and clone it where needed.   Our Jenkins 
> pipeline needs it.
>
> Dave Jousma
>
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
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> David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com>
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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
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> > On 3 Nov 2023, at 10: 32 pm, Paul Gilmartin 
> > <0000042bfe9c879d-dmarc-request@ LISTSERV. UA. EDU> wrote: > > On Fri, 3 
> > Nov 2023 19: 42: 15 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >> >> Yes. But you still 
> > need the internet .. . >>
>
>
> > On 3 Nov 2023, at 10:32 pm, Paul Gilmartin 
> > <0000042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 19:42:15 +0800, David Crayford  wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes. But you still need the internet ...
> >>
> > What's the alternative?  Railway Express?  Dialup modem?
>
> A lot of customers air-gap their mainframe systems so you can’t use package 
> managers. Colin Paice opened an issue for my pyzfile Python package to 
> document installation methods on air-gapped systems 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/discussion/reading-an-mvs-dataset-using-z-open-automation-utility__;!!MwwqYLOC6b6whF7V!nVlHVMjwgMI8doNcGXgOJIwnci0yoWLQREmOo_7c-J1hWzEQQaXiHBinMK7zqEFHNnMuAhcKDi1m24hwsjs$.
>
> Dave Jousma seems to have found a solution to his problem. Rocket provide an 
> off-line channel for ported tools but it’s only available to customers with 
> commercial support, in which case you have the choice of SMP/E. Most 
> customers that are using ported tools for critical work, such as Git, have 
> commercial support. Z/OS Open Tools is a great alternative if you only 
> require free tools. They have ported tools not available from Rocket, such as 
> nano, which most ISPF users will find easier to use then vim.
>
> >
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