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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of 
Joseph Reichman <reichman...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 7:58 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Why it's important to take Seymour's advice

I am looking at the TCB/rb chain in the SVC dump the IRB epa has a 1 as the 
last digit
I was in amode 31 when I issued schedirb
The irb address last digit was a 0 before it pc to schedirb

At this point I’m thinking of using the crib macro to build the irb as it gives 
me more control ie I can look at the irb before it goes to schedirb

Thanks

> On Sep 19, 2023, at 4:20 PM, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:
>
> It's best to use whichever is fitted to the task at hand. There is no one 
> size fits all.
>
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> Joseph Reichman <reichman...@gmail.com>
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> Hi just did a a SUMM TCBERROR and this is what I got
>
> Now I was doing something in AMODE 64 prior to the SCHEDIRD But I know I went 
> back to AMODE 31
>
> As an side is it better to  USE CRIB to schedule the IRB (in which case it 
> returns to me the IRB and I can see what I am scheduling or ) SCHEDIRB
>
> Thank you
>
>  IRB: 008FB710
>     KEYSTA... 00        WLIC..... 00040004  EPA...... 9FF01E81
>     OPSW..... 078D0000  9FF01EA0            LINK..... 008FEA90
>
>  PRB: 008FEA90
>     WLIC..... 00020001  OPSW..... 071C1000  852CB728
>     LINK..... 018E76D0
>     EP....... IKJEFT01  ENTPT.... 852C5000
>
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
> Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 11:25 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Why it's important to take Seymour's advice
>
> My experience is that in times past this was definitely true. But nowadays it 
> no longer is.
> I am unsure what changed but I think there was a change somewhere, possibly 
> in the cross-memory instructions.
> Lennie
>
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> Sent: 19 September 2023 16:16
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> Subject: Re: Why it's important to take Seymour's advice
>
> I think the other address space needs to be nonswappable.
>
>
>>    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 09:40:36 AM EDT, Adam Johanson 
>> <0000031ca9d720a7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu 
>> <mailto:0000031ca9d720a7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > wrote:
>>
>> Tom Brennan wrote:
>>
>> I've never written code that runs as an SRB, but over the years I've
>> read about them and seen them in action, such as Omegamon poking code
>> into other address spaces to grab data or do things like zap memory.
>
> For what it's worth, you don't need to go through all the rigamarole of an 
> SRB to go poking around in another address space.
>
> Given the proper authorization, you can:
>
> - Issue an AXSET, specifying a value of 1
> - Issue an SSAR instruction identifying the target address space as the 
> secondary address space
> - Use MVCP / MVCS instructions to copy data between your primary address 
> space and the secondary address space
>
>
> There is also the technique of using the special ALET value of x'00000001' 
> and using AR mode to reference data from another address space.
>
> ===============================
> Adam Johanson
> Broadcom Mainframe Software Division
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