I used to arrive at work every morning to have to wade through a two
foot high paper system dump to see why an OS abend had occurred that
night. Every night, pretty well in the early days!
MFT, MVT, MVS. MVS was a LOT better.
Running TSO in 3/4 of a meg was interesting. And VERY slow.
We used to keep the IBM SE's pretty busy in the 1960's and 1970's.
Shell Oil Melbourne used to have English Electric Leo computers, and
moved to an IBM 65. The English Leos were pretty much the first
commercial computers available. Fully multi programming in the '60s.
And we were seriously into PL./I - all our Cleo programs were converted
to PL/I (F). CLEO was a bit like COBOL - absolutely excellent for
commercial programs.
Clem
Colin Paice wrote:
I remember going to a customer to discuss a deep technical problem. Before
they let us into the inner sanctum were given a dump and were asked "what's
the problem?" My colleague looked at it and said there is a program check
at this address, and this is fixed in ptf uy.... " come on in you've
passed" they said . They said this weeded out non technical people
On Tue, Sep 5, 2023, 23:32 Bernd Oppolzer <bernd.oppol...@t-online.de>
wrote:
Hi Peter,
this reminds me of another story ...
some day my customer (a large insurance company here in Germany) asked
me to talk with their IBM rep,
because we had a severe problem with one of the DB2 components which I
discovered, and I was asked to
have IBM fix it or otherwise provide a solution of my own (it was in the
DB2 interface for Batch - CAF - IIRC,
and it used 5 % of the overall CPU in some of our IMS regions simply by
walking sequentially through
some MVS control blocks chains)
So I called the IBM rep, and the first thing he asked me was: "are you a
systems programmer"?
and, although I wasn't sure at that time what that means, I said: "yes,
but why do you want to know?",
and he said: "well, if not, we're not gonna talk with you"
:-)
Kind regards
Bernd
Am 04.09.2023 um 16:23 schrieb Peter Sylvester:
Namen sind Schall und Rauch,
Some parts of the discussion reminds me to Lewis Carroll, Through the
looking glass.
It reminds me to the citation that that I made in ibmmail descript
https://www.funet.fi/pub/doc/netinfo/EARN/ (There are some other
gems in that directory).
"song" = "what is your profession."
Peter Sylvester
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