Learning a useful subset is not that hard. Learning everything in HLASM and in 
the architecture is much harder. As a practical matter, you have to concentrate 
on the z, HLASM, z/OS, etc. facilities that are most relevant to your job and 
pick up more as time allows.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of 
Matt Hogstrom <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 12:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Ray Mullins on Assembler demand.

My take is that Assembler is just a language and honestly I don’t think its
all that hard to learn.  What it does require is more understanding of the
OS and the ability to setup for calls to other services.

The higher languages simply obscure, or encapsulate, those low level
services.

I use Metal C for new code as it is more easily understood by developers.
That said, there are times for pure assembler code and I enjoy it.  I
started out as a batch assembler programmer but I was drawn to understand
the OS and its structure.  Assembler was the way to interface and now there
are other options.

As an ISV we want Assembler programmers.  In a business, I’d focus on the
languages that the market understands.  The important thing is to not be
religious about a language.  Its just a tool.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 08:22 David Elliot <[email protected]> wrote:

> Very little from what I see. What little
>  there is is stupid stuff like reverse engineering code so that the client
> can rewrite it in JAVA or whatever the language of the day is.
>

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