I have been a part of this list (and RACF) for decades. I have found
valuable insights here, and even more valuable help for specific
situations. I am deeply grateful for the help you all have been giving me
along theses years and I hope to be around here for a few more years. There
are a very few that consider themselves to be always right. And there has
been regrettable abuse from time to time. But everyone else help, and the
possibility that I just may help someone will keep me here.
Thank you all for everything over the years
Best regards
Jack

On Sun, Sep 3, 2023, 14:20 Lionel B. Dyck <lbd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> One thing to consider is the affects on the new kids on the block - those
> who want to, and/or are trying to, learn the mainframe. They come here
> looking for a professional list from which to ask questions and to learn
> from. What is the impression they are receiving and will they stay or will
> they think the mainframe consists of individuals they do not want to
> associate with.
>
>
> Lionel B. Dyck <><
> Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
> Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
>
> “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what
> you are, reputation merely what others think you are.”   - - - John Wooden
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf
> Of Bob Bridges
> Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2023 8:56 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following
> IBM-MAIN
>
> I recently stopped posting on a forum (not this one), and I can tell you
> why ~I~ didn't make an announcement about it:
>
> The first is kind of like yours, Brian:  I haven't yet been able to find
> any way of saying "I don't like the conversation here any more" without it
> sounding, in my ears at least, like "well, if he's going to be that way
> I'll just take my ball and go home.  Then you'll all be sorry!"
>
> The second is that sometimes I try to quit and can't resist coming back.
> There's something so anticlimactic about taking my ball and going home,
> only to start surreptitiously posting again later, hoping no one will
> notice that I couldn't stick to my threat :).
>
> ---
> Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
>
> /* Thirty years ago, opposing the then-equivalent of today's motor voting
> bill...I was angrily accosted by a public figure who demanded to know just
> who I thought should not vote. My answer, the 30 percent of Americans who
> have never heard of the United Nations.  -William F Buckley, 1999 */
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf
> Of Brian Westerman
> Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2023 18:21
>
> People will join the list, people will leave the list.  Some of them will
> let the list know why they left (as in this case) and some of them will
> either just stop participating or leave without any word at all.  It's sad
> to hear that people are leaving the list for any reason, but to leave
> because "others" are not being professional boarders on the silly side of
> things and is more in the line of a tantrum and could have been handled a
> bit more professionally.
>
> There are many ways to selectively weed out the things you don't want to
> participate in.  I like MailWasher (not a plug, but I do use it) to weed
> out things automatically, but for the most part I just ignore as much of
> the stuff I disagree with as I can, but in some cases I have also been
> upset by things.  I didn't quit, and I tried not to throw a tantrum.  I
> just slacked off in my participation a bit.  I decided that some people
> have nothing better to do and it's not really my thing to try to "fix"
> them.  I didn't bother telling anyone that I was slacking off for two
> reasons, 1) it's no one's business but my own, and 2) I think it would be
> just as unprofessional to throw a tantrum and then quit as the posts that
> made me want to quit in the first place.
>
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