I remember using: 0lt$$ (the $$ is how escape-escape echoed.)
More times than I can count... but then again, it's what you had to do when programming on a teletype. The ed and vi commands are actually based upon TECO. As far as I know vi is just a visual decedent of TECO. Hayim Sokolsky (he/him/his) Director, Software Engineering Rocket Software, USA E: hsokol...@rocketsoftware.com W:RocketSoftware.com The views I have expressed in this email are my own personal views, and are not endorsed or supported by, and do not necessarily express or reflect, the views, positions or strategies of my employer. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Leonard D Woren Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 4:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TECO (was Re: Has anyone) EXTERNAL EMAIL Bob Bridges wrote on 8/16/2023 8:23 AM: > Too many years ago; I don't remember. And it isn't as if > "unintuitive" is a fatal error in editors or any other application; > TECO (anyone ever use > that?) is a powerful editor - it was on the PDP platform as I recall - > with early automation features that I used extensively, and it was > full of odd uses for <ESC> and '$' and some other characters, but it > did a good job - once I was used to it. But whatever this Unix editor > was, a half hour wasn't enough for me to learn much about it or get used to > anything. > > --- > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 > > /* People who can't distinguish between "etymology" and "entomology" > bug me in ways I cannot put into words. -Tal Waterhouse */ IBM-MAIN relevancy: ISPF EDIT still rules! (But now I should learn regexps.) I never tried TECO, after reading "Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL" 40 years ago. Extract: Some of the concepts in these Xerox editors have been incorporated into editors running on more reasonably named operating systems -- EMACS and VI being two. The problem with these editors is that Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. TECO, to be precise. It has been observed that a TECO command sequence more closely resembles transmission line noise than readable text [4]. One of the more entertaining games to play with TECO is to type your name in as a command line and try to guess what it does. Just about any possible typing error while talking with TECO will probably destroy your program, or even worse -- introduce subtle and mysterious bugs in a once working subroutine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ================================ Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA 02451 ■ Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 Contact Customer Support: https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription Preferences - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences Privacy Policy - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy ================================ This communication and any attachments may contain confidential information of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Rocket Software immediately and destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN