> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 03:11:40 PM PDT, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> Shouldn't this be explained earlier, such as in 
> "Relationship to other parameters", not only in an Example?

You missed the tree for the forest. Its discussed in the section you mentioned 
but labeled "Naming a Sysout Data Set"

    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 03:11:40 PM PDT, Paul Gilmartin 
<0000042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:  
 
 On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 16:04:48 -0500, Doug Henry wrote:
>    ...
> For sysout datasets the first level is the Userid of the Job not the jobname. 
>
Thanks.  So the user ID is available.  Is it possible to code so that a JCL
symbol or a PRO symbol becomes the last qualifier?

And, I see in
<https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=parameter-examples-sysout>:

Examples of the SYSOUT parameter
    ...
Example 2:
    //DD2    DD    DSNAME=&&amp;PAYOUT1,SYSOUT=P

    In this example, DD statement DD2 defines PAYOUT1 as the last qualifier
    of the system-generated name for the sysout data set. The system
    generates a name such as userid.jobname.jobid.Ddsnumber.PAYOUT1.
        ...

Shouldn't this be explained earlier, such as in "Relationship to other
parameters", not only in an Example?

>>    ...
>>    DD SYSOUT=(,),DSN=&SYSUID

-- 
gil

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