The narcissism here is amazing. To claim IBM doesn’t know what they are doing 
and some dudes on the internet do. There are 10,000+ mainframes. That would 
extrapolate to tens of thousands of systems programmers worldwide. I’m fairly 
certain the few hundred here, of which 20-30 dominate 90% of the banter, aren’t 
smarter than the managers at IBM. 


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On Monday, August 7, 2023, 11:16 AM, Steve Thompson <ste...@wkyr.net> wrote:

Choir here. Maybe you should explain this to IBM marketing and 
"C" level management?  To bad they aren't A level managers. ;-)

Just say'n'.

Steve Thompson

On 8/6/2023 10:57 PM, Jon Perryman wrote:
>  > On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 06:36:52 AM PDT, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>> There is NO DEFINITION.Of course there is a definition otherwise it's 
>> jabberwocky. Not one person is willing to accept the actual definition as 
>> given in all dictionaries: a large computer shared by many people. My point 
>> is that today, every computer used as a server is a mainframe. System z has 
>> fallen to the ranks of a server and mainframe should not be used.
>> Everyone may use it's own imagination.
> Made up definitions are either jabberwocky or slang.
>
>> Of course some definition may be less popular than other.
> So you are saying everyone's definition is correct as long as that person 
> knows what it means.
>
>> IMHO, The most commonly used definition
>> NOWADAYS is: IBM System Z.
>
> Common use of a word doesn't mean people use it correctly. My point is that 
> everyone is using "mainframe" incorrectly. Either System z is a server or all 
> servers are mainframes. Either change the definition or people should use it 
> correctly.
>
>
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