I tested it extensively and hit too many issues with the MVS side. I worked
with the developer, who tried to fix them, but ultimately he gave up.
For example, CD to a subfolder and then enter CD 'node'.
And the more you CD the worse it gets, because WinSCP keeps a cache of past
directories. You can enter a command that is navigating to a different level in
the MVS data set and it won't work right.
The reason it is having these problems is that WinSCP.com is really a command
line interface to the WinSCP GUI application. A GUI FTP client needs to be able
to display the path to your current directory, so it has to do more than just
send raw commands and echo back the results. It must /interpret/ the results.
And that requires deep knowledge of how the server presents the file system.
And it gets worse. Realize that on a z/OS FTP server you can work with both the
MVS and OpenEdition file systems in the same session; you can switch back and
forth. CD to /folder, that's the OpenEdition side, and now CD subfolder
descends within it. But CD to 'node', now you're on the MVS side. But, WinSCP
assumed that there's always a / at the root.
And, WinSCP makes incorrect assumptions about what data looks like coming back
from listing PDS libraries. For example, you can not use WinSCP to download a
member of a PDS that does not have ISPF statistics.
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POS Raphael
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 11:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows
Hi Michael,
Try winscp.com command interface.
Works like a charm with MVS dataset.
Ciao,
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Schmitt, Michael
Envoyé : jeudi 27 juillet 2023 17:40
À : IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Objet : Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows
Thanks for the MOVEit Freely suggestion, but it doesn't actually work in
passive mode with our z/OS communications server.
MOVEit Freely is sending command PASV. The server returns:
227 Entering Passive Mode (128,212,110,33,238,85)
Which results in a MOVEit error: Invalid response to PASV.
However, FileZilla is issuing the same PASV command, and getting back a similar
response:
227 Entering Passive Mode (128,212,110,33,238,127)
Which FileZilla accepts.
So I still maintain that there are NO free command line FTP clients for
Windows* that support passive mode AND work with the MVS file system. PROVE ME
WRONG, I beg you.
* installing the Linux subsystem is cheating!
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of
Charles Mills
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 6:50 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Preferred FTP Client for Windows
Au contraire:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ipswitch.com/resources/free-tools/moveit-freely__;!!KhFLcXQ-_A!xg_d1avlXggVlARp9Bp6fZHYudxg-qHirsTEmi2NnIia3bqWujhWtKvqiER7tmD56BEnY7n9fZsC1Q4x7nLvU9iQKDeBXg$
There is no need for any client to have any special cognizance of the file
system at the server end. I am sure whoever wrote the Windows command line FTP
had zero knowledge of z/OS data sets, but it works just fine, as @Bob Bridges
attests.
And yes, I have used the above product extensively with MVS files.
Charles
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 22:32:41 +0000, Schmitt, Michael <michael.schm...@dxc.com>
wrote:
>FileZilla for GUI. Windows built-in FTP for command line, but...
>
>There are NO (free) command line FTP clients for Windows that support passive
>mode AND work with the MVS file system. Zilch. Nada. NOT A SINGLE ONE.
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