> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 08:25:34 PM PDT, Steve Horein > <steve.hor...@gmail.com> wrote: > The only time I have seen NIP messages (those messages prior to VARY
> CN(*),ACTIVATE being accepted) on a native MVS LPAR was when the NIP device Hi Phil, Sorry for the long delay.but I had other things to do. Steve may have a possible solution. Let me put it into terms you can understand. Steve says there is 1 exception to the hardware console requiring V CN(*),ACT to become the first active console during IPL. He says if you disable all z/OS DEV(###) consoles, then the hardware console will automatically activate because there is no other console available. I believe this to be true but I have never tried this. There may be a couple caveats that can be discussed later if it solves your problem. This is simple to test. From the z/OS VM user, detach all devices specified in PARMLIB(CONSOL##). At the moment, forget he mentions "NIP" device because this is almost always included in PARMLIB(CONSOL##) which means you would have detached it. This is so simple it's worth a try. On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 08:25:34 PM PDT, Steve Horein <steve.hor...@gmail.com> wrote: The only time I have seen NIP messages (those messages prior to VARY CN(*),ACTIVATE being accepted) on a native MVS LPAR was when the NIP device defined in the IODF was not available, I believe due to some cabling issues. In that situation, all NIP messages were routed to the SE/HMC System Console. I had requested the NIP device be removed from IODF years before, for that exact purpose, to assist with automation that uses SYSCONS, and/or for diagnostics, but due to Fear/Uncertainty/Doubt, the request was flatly denied. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=system-nip-console "If no NIP console is defined and ready, MVS™ will use the system console as the NIP-time console." I have zero experience with zVM, so I do not know if that NIP message behavior is the same when MVS is running as a guest. I just figured I would pass along my anecdotal observations. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN