Some devices are veryn flexible, but not so flexible as that. If you define an MCS console as 3277, then MCS will write 3270 data streams with SF and all the rest; it will mot write any NL orders. If you define that address to VM as a 3215 then it will not be able to correctly deblock the messages. Thus it ever were.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Jon Perryman [[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2023 10:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Ignorant z/OS question > On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 04:28:48 PM PDT, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> > wrote: > Your not keeping your MVS and VM in synch; 3E1 should be a 3215 on both or a > 3270 on both. Some devices must be in synch (e.g. disk drives). On the other hand, some devices are very flexible. z/VM CONSOLE has nothing to do with consoles because you can't distinguish between a terminal versus console. z/VM "CONSOLE" in each user defined associates a device address with the users screen. 3270 says to treat data to and from this device as 3270 datastream versus 3215 as a printer / keyboard. z/OS has syslog and various types of consoles available (including TSO CONSOLE). I think that printer / keyboard support was dropped when IBM rewrote consoles. On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 04:28:48 PM PDT, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: Your not keeping your MVS and VM in synch; 3E1 should be a 3215 on both or a 3270 on both. ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Phil Smith III <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2023 5:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Ignorant z/OS question Norman wrote: >I'd have to try it. 3215s have been gone for decades. >I used an attached or dialed 3270 for MVS. For the guest, >you probably have a Cons defined as 009 or 01F, as 3215. Right, at 3E1, which is also in CONSOL00: CONSOLE DEVNUM(3E1) ROUTCODE(ALL) UNIT(3277-2) AUTH(MASTER) DEL(RD) RNUM(19) RTME(1) MFORM(J,T) SEG(19) AREA(NONE) NAME(S0W103E1) And on VM: CONS 03E1 DISCONNECTED TERM START 03E1 CL T NOCONT NOHOLD COPY 001 READY FORM STANDARD 03E1 TO MAINT RDR DIST ETPGZ1D FLASHC 000 DEST OFF 03E1 FLASH CHAR MDFY 0 FCB LPP OFF 03E1 3215 NOEOF OPEN 0029 NOKEEP NOMSG NONAME 03E1 SUBCHANNEL = 0000 Not sure if this is useful info, but it might be... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
