> What a BS 'survey'

What is it you consider to be BS? Are you saying that the hardware numbers are 
wrong?  An IBM z16 Max200 fully loaded has 256 cores where 200 cores are 
available to the customer, 40TB ram and 1,536 (4 CPC draws with 12 fanout 
adapters each containing 2 ports connecting to a 16 PCIe slot I/O drawer)? 32 
z16 Max200 in a sysplex is 8,192 cores (6,400 customer usable cores), 1,280TB 
ram and 49,152 PCIe+ slots with each of the 32 boxes capable of running 1 z/OS. 
These numbers come from https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg248950.pdf

While that is excessive, IBM can provide you with it today and you could make 
it run efficiently. If you were to run 1 Linux on each of these boxes, most of 
each machine would sit idle waiting on disk. 

Is it BS to say that running Linux even on a 32 core 5.5Ghx CPU is struggling 
to keep that box 100% busy because of disks? Is it BS to say that you won't 
find a motherboard with more than 8 PCIe slots or that those PCIe slots mostly 
go unused? Is it BS to say that any company with a 10,000 server server farm is 
not jumping through hoops and using an army to maintain those servers? Is it BS 
to say that IBM z16 failures occur on a daily basis whereas Google is 
constantly fixing their server farm with a large fulltime staff?

I want to know why people think IBM RHEL closed source announcement is being 
ignored when IBM can only grow if they sell z16 to Linux only customers. Are 
you saying it's BS for IBM to expand into the Linux market by using existing 
z/OS products making RHEL compatible with z16? Is it BS for IBM to collect 
revenues from the z/OS products used directly in RHEL without having z/OS on 
any box?    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 07:00:53 AM PDT, Michael Watkins 
<0000032966e74d0f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:  
 
 What a BS 'survey'.

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IBM RHEL announced it's move to closed source (IBM RedHat Enterprise Linux). 
With some changes, DB2, RACF and other z/OS products could run in Linux on z16 
in one sysplexed Linux image. We know it's possible because IBM moved Unix and 
TCP into z/OS. IBM RHEL said closed source would force non-paying customers to 
buy RHEL licenses but this makes no sense. Something else must be in play.
I created a survey at https://forms.gle/ZTPXsDJo8Z4H93sv7 to gain insights into 
IBM's decision to close source RHEL. You can skip the survey if you don't want 
to take it and view the survey results through this website. Feel free to pass 
this along.
 I think IBM wants to integrate z/OS products to retain their investments and 
expand their customer base..
Why is the z/OS community ignoring IBM RHEL closed source? Are software vendors 
preparing their products for Linux?


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