I think it’s not having multiple ID inasmuch as the implied sharing.   Oddly 
enough, I’ve run into a situation where some customers want to map multiple 
distributed IDs to a shared mainframe ID for a given function in an application 
to avoid creating hundreds of IDs for the application support personnel.  I 
guess quantity has a quality all its own.

Matt Hogstrom

“It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive."
— Hogstrom



> On Jul 14, 2023, at 9:15 AM, David Spiegel 
> <00000468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH,
> You said: "...Auditors don't like multiple user ids..."
> It's not the first time auditors have had illogical ideas.
> 
> OTOH, 2 or more people sharing a Userid is BAD.
> 
> Regards,
> David
> 
> On 2023-07-14 08:38, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> Auditors don't like multiple user ids, but sysprogs are usually in multiple 
>> roles, with different authority requirements.
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of 
>> Colin Paice <colinpai...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 7:57 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Userid schemes
>> 
>> Some of the UK banks use your D.O.B as an account number - such as
>> 601225JC12 !  which exposes sensitive information.
>> 
>> At one point some of us had two userids. SYSPROG1  ... for sysprog stuff,
>> and a personal ID.
>> When anyone moved on they just reallocated SYSPROG1 to a new user, and all
>> the accesses continued to work.
>> If you use a personal ID, you had to connect it to a lot of groups to get
>> the access, and remove the retiree from the same groups.
>> Role based userids are much better and less work
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 at 10:39, Radoslaw Skorupka <
>> 00000471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> W dniu 14.07.2023 o 02:32, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
>>>> On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 20:17:38 -0400, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> A place I worked used initials followed by a 5 digit employee ID.
>>> xxnnnnn
>>>> Many years ago someone reported here that in Canada it was illegal to
>>>> use an employee# as a UID because it's considered privileged HR
>>> information.
>>>> I'd guess the same applies to user IDs.
>>> 
>>> I would like to know the explanation of such statement. IMHO employee#
>>> is as internal as userid.
>>> It is NOT SSN or other government number.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Radoslaw Skorupka
>>> Lodz, Poland
>>> 
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