Long ago in a galaxy far away I was content with a 3180 running 43x80 primary 
and 27x132 secondary (required a custom logmode) and was happy with a 3290 
running as one 62x160 screen with ISPF SPLIT and VSPLIT to subdivide it.

Alas, while I know of TN3270 clients that support 62x160, I don't know of any 
that is compatible with the 3290; specifically, I don't know of any that 
support explicit partitions, required by ISPF for VSPLIT.


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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of 
David Spiegel [[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 8:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: z/OSMF

Hi Terri,
If you have a 14 inch monitor, it is time to invest in your career and
get a proper monitor (e.g. 27 inch minimum).
If you're seeing 3-4 lines, it also means that you're probably using
Model 2 emulation (24x80). Model 2 for a SysProg wastes a lot of time
with unnecessarily scrolling, plus your context is not useful.
You should be running (minimum) Model 4 emulation (43x80) and preferably
3290 emulation (62x160).

Regards,
David

On 2023-07-02 19:50, Shaffer, Terri wrote:
> Besides having ServerPac back, I want no background checking down.
>
> I want batch jobs built to allocate everything, IF a newbie want to trust the 
> process awesome.  But in my 38 years, opps doesn’t cut it.
>
> Again, just give me a switch.  Allow the scripts to build the batch jobs and 
> I will verify everything exists, if a conflict arises in dataset names, flag 
> them and I will resolve in batch.
>
> Then too many headers, Tabs, etc, in workflows means you only see about 3-4 
> lines on a 14" monitor. I should not have to acquire a new monitor to run/see 
> them with ease.
>
> Again I hate, anything that runs remote to the lpar, it’s the first thing 
> that doesn’t respond, besides using way too much CPU overall, just to screen 
> flip.
>
> Serverpac hardly ever got out of period 1, TSO.
>
> Just a bad design overall....
>
> Ms Terri E Shaffer
> Senior Systems Engineer,
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> -----Original Message-----
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> kekronbekron
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2023 11:39 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: z/OSMF
>
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> In an attempt to steer this to a brainstorming thing...
>
> What are the components of zOSMF, and what are the warts people have noticed?
> Apart from the UI or that a UI itself exists.
>
> Websphere Liberty,... what else?
> What parts are tunable, what capabilities are needed, etc?
>
>
> - KB
>
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Saturday, July 1st, 2023 at 2:38 AM, Tom Marchant 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> I don't see why, and that wouldn't be consistent with what they have done in 
>> the past.
>> Some examples:
>> z/OS 2.1 was available September 2013. It was not supported on a z990
>> or a Z890. Support for those were dropped in 2014 and 2016 z/OS 2.2 was 
>> available in 2015. It was not supported on a z9. z9 EC was supported until 
>> 2017. z9 BC was supported until 2019.
>> z/OS 2.3 was available in 2017. It was not supported on a z196 (support 
>> dropped 2021) or z114 (supported until 2022).
>> z/OS 2.5 was available in 2021. It was not supported on a zEC12 or a zBC12. 
>> AFAIK, support for those have not yet been dropped.
>>
>> I'm not sure, but I think that what IBM has done is to support a level of 
>> hardware until the last release of z/OS that is supported on that machine is 
>> off support, or at least withdrawn from marketing. Not to support a new 
>> release of the operating system on all processors that are currently 
>> supported at GA.
>>
>> --
>> Tom Marchant
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 01:01:21 -0500, Brian Westerman 
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> So is IBM definitely dropping support for the z13s BEFORE z/OS 3.1 is 
>>> officially out? If not, then it should be supported by z/OS 3.1. . . .
>>
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