Thank you for that - I've seen SYSDA at every shop I've worked at since the 
early so made that false assumption.


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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
David Spiegel
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 9:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: How batch create a PDSE2 with Generations?

Hi Lionel,
SYSDA is a user-defined esoteric group. SYSALLDA, OTOH, encompasses all DASD 
Units and is built-in to z/OS.

Regards,
David

On 2023-06-26 11:58, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
> The OP asked for batch, and I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that he wanted to 
> do it with JCL for a vendor product installation.
>
> SYSDA, SYSALLDA, or 3390 - all should work as generic unit types and an 
> optional vol=ser=xxxxxx may be needed if SMS is not active and/or the dasd is 
> not mounted as public.
>
> Doing it using REXX, or some other scripting language, would also work.
>
>
> Lionel B. Dyck <><
> Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com/
> Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
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> “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you 
> are, reputation merely what others think you are.”   - - - John Wooden
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 10:53 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: How batch create a PDSE2 with Generations?
>
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:38:03 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
>
>> Try this - just tested and it does work. Hope it helps
>>
>> //PDSEALC  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
>> //PDSE     DD  DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=MYHLQ.NEW.PDSE,
>> //             UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(15,15),DSORG=PO,
>> //             DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0),
>> //             DSNTYPE=(LIBRARY,2),MAXGENS=15
>>
> Also supported by BPXWDYN (yay!):
> <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=output-requesting-dynamic
> -allocation>
>
> Is batch ISPF an alternative or do generations depend on graphic terminal?
>
> What releases does the OP wish to support?
>
> IS SYALLSDA preferable to SYSDA since the latter is nonstandard?
>
> --
> gil
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