Dave

I will setup an offline conference call to discuss this with both you and my 
colleague.

He will be able to answer any/all questions in this area.

Rob

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Thanks Rob. That sounds rather definitive. And of course for
scheduling SRBs, that make perfect sense.

But let me change the question slightly. I'm actually more interested
in suspended local SRBs. I.E. SSRBs and SSRXs. Are they stabilized
when the LOCAL lock is held?

Thanks,
Dave






At 5/31/2023 09:52 AM, Rob Scott wrote:
>Dave
>The answer from a work colleague who knows a LOT about the dispatcher is :
>"The answer is no. SRB scheduling/dispatching does not use the local
>lock unless the SRB requests the local lock on dispatch. If so it
>is obtained (or suspended to wait for it) as the dispatch occurs."
>Rob Scott
>Rocket Software
>
>>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
>><IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU<mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>> On
>>Behalf Of David Cole
>>Sent: 31 May 2023 11:01
>>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU<mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
>>Subject: Re: SSRB/SSRX and LOCAL locks question
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>>
>>I was enquiring specifically about SRBs, not RBs.
>>Dave Cole
>>
>>
>>
>>At 5/31/2023 05:25 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>>> >I don't see how that answers either question.
>>> >The need for SUSPEND RB caller to be disabled is to allow the
>>> resume process
>>> >to resume it. You cannot schedule the resume process until the suspend as
>>> >otherwise the resume may try resuming before the suspend
>>> completes, causing
>>> >the later suspend to never wake up. It works different than ECBs.
>>> >On Wed, 31 May 2023 18:38:58 +1000 Attila Fogarasi
>>> <fogar...@gmail.com<mailto:fogar...@gmail.com<mailto:fogar...@gmail.com%3cmailto:fogar...@gmail.com>>>
>>>  wrote:
>>>> >>:>It's documented as needing either LOCAL or CML lock. See
>>>> >>:>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.2.0?topic=processing-suspen<https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.2.0?topic=processing-suspen>
>>>> ding-rb-until-event-completes-suspend<https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.2.0?topic=processing-suspending-rb-until-event-completes-suspend<https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.2.0?topic=processing-suspending-rb-until-event-completes-suspend>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>:>
>>>> >>:>On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 6:20?PM Binyamin Dissen
>>>> >><bdis...@dissensoftware.com<mailto:bdis...@dissensoftware.com<mailto:bdis...@dissensoftware.com%3cmailto:bdis...@dissensoftware.com>>>
>>>> >>:>wrote:
>>>>> >>>:>
>>>>> >>>:>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 16:42:00 -0400 David Cole
>>>>> >>><dbc...@colesoft.com<mailto:dbc...@colesoft.com<mailto:dbc...@colesoft.com%3cmailto:dbc...@colesoft.com>>>
>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>:>>
>>>>>> >>>:>> :>Does any know if suspended SRB control blocks (SSRB/SSRX) are
>>>>>> >>>:>> :>stabilized by holding the LOCAL lock? (I'm
>>>>>> considering logic in
>>>>>> >>>:>> :>support of setting up TRAP2 debugging for SRBs.)
>>>>>> >>>:>>
>>>>> >>>:>> I am also curious to know what "owner serialized" means.

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