TINW. Perhaps some are just resistant to change, but even those (hypothetical) people may have valid objections, e.g.,
Performance Inadequate testing against a wide variety of installations Inadequate documentation and training Inadequate transition tools Inadequate transition period -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of VER Z038 [ver.z...@outlook.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 8:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OSMF Why so much hate for z/OSMF? We sound like a bunch of grumpy old boomers resistant to change. 🙂 I always found ServerPac clunky and unnecessarily complicated. Longing for that is not a hill I would choose to die on. 🙂 I have been supporting a 4 LPAR organisation since 2018 using z/OSMF Software Management and I think it's OK. It has its quirks but so does anything. It suits how I like to work. I like having an automated inventory of what I deployed where and when. I also like being able to model a new deployment on an old one so the bulk of definitions do not need to happen from scratch. I also like how the integrated workflow for a new software level forces you to eyeball and action anything that is needed for the upgrade. Using z/OSMF Software Management does not mean you have to turn your brain off. You can still augment or change how things happen if you need to. Jobs are generated that you can look at before submission. Job output is captured so you can look at it after it executes. In my 4 LPAR environment, when building a new SYSRES, I only use z/OSMF to construct the first system. After that I choose to ADRDSSU full dump restore it the other 3 LPARs because I think redoing the z/OSMF work is simply too tedious to be worth doing over and over. But that is OK. I am sure IBM will get there eventually fixing things that need fixing. That has been happening consistently throughout the life of z/OSMF from the early days where simply starting it would completely paralyse your system. Neil. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN