Hi, That made for some interesting reading. I was quite proficient with REXX and XEDIT before moving to MVS and ISPF. The first MVS I worked with did not yet have REXX. It was helish doing the transition to ISPF and CLIST. I still find VM help much better than MVS's. One of the first things that I do when starting on a new MVS system is to put an edit macro named QQ on the SYSPROC or SYSEXEC concatenation, so that I do not have to write CANCEL. I really do not like having that on a pfkey. Too much grief because of that. I find that XEDIT environment capabilities permit us to tailor our working environment far more than ISPF but, as always, I think that has more to do with our path than with the products themselves. As I said at the beginning, it really was an interesting reading. Regards Jack
On Sat, May 20, 2023, 00:08 Paul Gilmartin < 0000042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 19 May 2023 18:32:57 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: > > ... > >>I was trying to automate that in a macro on PF3. > > > >Yeah, that makes sense. > > > I learned a smattering of ISPF before any XEDIT; the latter in the > era before PQUIT and QQIT intruded: the wrong solution. But > I immediately longed for ISPF's smart END which did a Save only > when needed and left the timestamp unchanged otherwise. > > And I was irritated by XEDIT's behavior of *always* scrolling to > center the target of a successful search, usually needlessly > > And it was disappointing that the XEDIT-based *LIST menus always > ran in separate rings, never sharing with each other, PEEK, and > XEDIT. They should have used ADDRESS XEDIT instead of CMS. > > I wasted too much time scripting around such things, never > modifying IBM code, only using undocumented interfaces. > And it all went for naught when a major update broke them > > -- > gil > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
