Next is z2024-08, if it's GA in August 2024. On Friday, March 3, 2023, Radoslaw Skorupka < 00000471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Well, nomenclature change is the only constant thing. > We had z900 and z800 > Then we had z990 and z890 > Then we had z9-109 and we expected z8... but they announced z9BC and renamed z9-109 to z9EC. > Then we had z10EC and z10BC > So we expected z11, but we got z196. And z114. They clarified it is 1 for first, 96 for # CPs... > Then EC12. And BC12. > So next generation was neither EC13 nor z9xxxEC but simply z13. With no EC. Then z13s arrived. > So next was z14 and we expected... but got z14 ZR1 - why ZR1? Why not R4:'#$3 ??? > Nevermind z15 arrived. So we were guessing: z15s? z15BC? z15 ZR1? No! z15 T02. Obviously big machine was z15 T01. Well... no. It wasn't quite obvious. > Now we have z16. Ooops! z16 A01. > Let me guess the name of small z16: maybe z16 A02? No! No way! It must be something unexpected. > > > Fine print: z196 was indeed 96-cp one. 80 for customer and SAPs, and spares. And z114 has 14 processors: 10 for OS and 2 SAPs and 2 spares. Of course it is about maximum quantities. > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > > > W dniu 02.03.2023 o 18:33, Mike Shorkend pisze: >> >> I still use the BC/EC nomenclature for lack of a better one. >> It comes down to the number of CPs you can have. The z15-T01("EC") has up >> to 190 general processors while the z15-T02("BC") is limited to 6. It goes >> back to the number of possible drawers on the CEC. >> >> Traditionally, the BC machines have many more sub capacity settings >> compared with EC. You can dial the processors from A to Z , so 26 >> different capacity settings per CP. >> The EC machines have much less granularity >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 at 19:13, Pommier, Rex <rpomm...@sfgmembers.com> wrote: >> >>> IBM dropped the EC/BC nomenclature, much to my chagrin. I'm guessing I'm >>> not the only one that still refers to the big one as the EC and the smaller >>> sibling as the BC, even though IBM doesn't. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf >>> Of Tom Brennan >>> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 10:04 AM >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Z15 EOM >>> >>> Didn't IBM drop the BC vs. EC notation a while ago? I've been calling >>> them water-cooled vs. air-cooled. The number of frames is obviously >>> confusing, along with air-cooled model numbers T02 and A01 (and I assume >>> A02 on the way) which look like speed/cp settings. >>> >>> On 3/2/2023 6:43 AM, P H wrote: >>>> >>>> The slide 91 is NOT the z16 'mid-range/business class' system. Depending >>> >>> on the configuration the z16 'high end' system, as announced, comes in 1, >>> 2, 3 or 4 racks.l! >>>> >>>> Sent from Outlook for >>>> Android<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg__;!!KjMRP1I >>>> xj6eLE0Fj!rA4k_tOBFRImng4OTWTF2Hcov3uCOXypF3klop9mtSWE7jN-yDuynqSA1Rcx >>>> kxy6kwV1zTq-yFwZSFklGftFxeY$ > ________________________________ >>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on >>>> behalf of Joe Monk <joemon...@gmail.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 7:29:14 PM >>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> >>>> Subject: Re: Z15 EOM >>>> >>>> "The one rack z16 (aka Business Class) has not yet been announced," >>>> >>>> It already exists. See slide 91. >>>> >>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ibm-zcouncil.com/wp-content/upload >>>> s/2022/05/z16-Technical-Overview-50M-KennyStine.pdf__;!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0 >>>> Fj!rA4k_tOBFRImng4OTWTF2Hcov3uCOXypF3klop9mtSWE7jN-yDuynqSA1Rcxkxy6kwV >>>> 1zTq-yFwZSFklSYEm_rc$ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >
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