Right.  I don't at all object to the admins using the panels if they like
them, nor creating supplemental panels for homegrown tools.  But yeah, I'm
mostly for the native commands myself, or REXX shortcuts.  (I was the same
way in DOS, more interested in the typed commands than in the various menu
products.)

Some of the shortcuts save a lot of time and extra typing; for instance, a
REXX that submits a DB2 query that asks "what user IDs have access to this
resource?".  Others are just laziness; an RLIST command that I can feed a
single user ID on group and get its listing in View.  (The equivalent in Top
Secret is TLIST.  It's been a while since I had an ACF2 client; I forget
what I named that command, but it wasn't ALIST at the time.  Maybe it would
be now.)

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Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313

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-----Original Message-----
From: Seymour J Metz
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 04:15

I am a strong GUI and panel advocate WHEN THEY SAVE TIME, and that includes
the RACF panels. In some contexts the RACF panels that IBM provides are
useful and save the time needed to write your own. For a lot of tasks they
are not appropriate, and that's fine. You have to carve the bird at the
joints.

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