Hi Bob,
You said: "... a number of reasons they want you on-site that doesn't
have to do with trust ..."
Here's one (especially governments in the US and Canada (I've worked for
both)): We've always done it this way (and we're not going revisit this
... ever)) aka inertia.
If I had on-site colleagues with whom I have to regularly confer in
person, you're obviously correct.
Otherwise, I don't see the value in commuting 2 hours/day uncompensated.
(6 years ago, I had a job doing Online Banking Development and this was
the case.)
Regards,
David
On 2023-02-20 10:04, Bob Bridges wrote:
I've been staying out of this discussion 'cause I'm not a sysprog. (I do
security, and before I did security I was an apps developer.) But I'll comment
on this one point: It obviously does NOT mean that. Or rather, it could mean
that if the only reason they want you on-site is that they don't trust you
otherwise. But that's not a serious possibility. Any of us can think of a
number of reasons they want you on-site that doesn't have to do with trust,
leading among them (in my opinion) is simply habit: They're USED to seeing
people on-site. There are other and better reasons too.
Mostly it seems to me that management exhibit a surprising level of trust in
matters like this. As I said, I'm a security jock, and I've been fully remote
since five years before COVID, but mostly wherever I go clients hand me the
keys to the kingdom (a different set of keys than yours but nonetheless
powerful) without any outward qualms. I sometimes wonder at it, for all that
it's necessary for me to do the job they hired me for. Do they lie awake at
night worrying about me? They certainly wouldn't tell me if they do. Are they
merely clueless? How much is their concern assuaged by the fact that the
recruiting company that rents me out to them undoubtedly covers the possibility
of my misbehavior with scads of insurance?
(Rereading this I have to clarify something: I don't mean that trust cannot
seriously be an issue - only that it's not the only possible issue.)
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I have seen many job ads which say "remote until COVID". This means that they
are willing to trust my work out of the office while there is a pandemic. Afterwards, I'm
not trusted?!
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