I'd guess there is no one that receives these emails who has an interest in 
every topic discussed, whether those topics are in technical threads or more 
the more 'off-topic' threads.

If a thread does not interest me, I simply ignore it. I find that works for me, 
whether the thread is technical or off-topic. If or when that doesn't work for 
me, I'll unsubscribe.


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Bingo. There are more people here who never help versus those that do. Also, 
there are far more mainframe people who aren’t even subscribed to IBM-MAIN than 
are subscribed. I have rarely needed assistance but when I did, I RTFM, or went 
directly to IBM or IBMers. Sent direct emails to Mr. Thomen,(RIP) Mr. 
Quackenbush, and others whose expertise is beyond this forum. Do I think there 
are talented individuals here? Of course. But, there are also some who are full 
of crap or just here for the professional networking.


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On Monday, February 6, 2023, 12:52 PM, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:

It's a bit more complicated. While there ma be people who never help and people 
who always help, there are also people whose response depends on how busy they 
are at the time and who is requesting assistance.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Tom 
Brennan <t...@tombrennansoftware.com>
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2023 12:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: I want to cry

"IT was just the means to an end"

Ah, that explains why I can't remember you ever helping someone here with a 
technical issue.  Pretty-much anyone I've ever worked with who got into this 
business *only* because they saw money, was generally less-technical and often 
ended up in management.  The folks who were truly interested in computers were 
the ones who got things done technically and were always ready to help others.

On 2/6/2023 9:01 AM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Me too. People who post non-stop, every day, all day, obviously have no life 
> outside of IBM-MAIN. Whereas, I rarely post because I’m doing a ton of 
> traveling. But, that’s been true throughout my IT career. Whether it was my 
> travels to NY to be on the MILLIONAIRE show, my $10,000 reward for helping 
> the FBI solve a robbery of an armored car facility, to global travels, IT was 
> just the means to an end. Not what defined me. Back to lurking.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Monday, February 6, 2023, 11:50 AM, Steve Smith <sasd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I do feel sorry for those of you who evidently have no social life 
> whatsoever outside of IBM-MAIN.
>
> But most of us would be very gratified if you'd STFU about off-topics.
> You're polluting the forum and wasting our time.
>
> sas
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