Most non-Cobol programmers, or even that have not been exposed to shops that can use the language as it was intended, think Cobol is a simplistic language.

I was lucky and spent several years in a shop that really knew how to sling Cobol code. And, before you say it must have been unreadable, that is not the case.

This shop was a banking software vendor that was supplied to the customers in Cobol. This was back in the late 80's, so no internet to look at code at night. The rule was that you had to be able to debug 2am problems so code could not be too complex.

There was *heavy* use of common copybooks, such as date routines, etc. Psedu-OO before OO.

This was my third job and I learned a lot.

Now, I write 99% in assembler, but many of the techniques I use are based on what I learned about 'programming' at that shop.

But, it did make me aware of what good programmers were like. In almost every shop I have been at, it would take 2 or 3 programmers to do what just one programmer did at that vendor.

I have truly seen 'unicorn' Cobol programmers, so I know they do exist.

Tony Thigpen

Bob Bridges wrote on 2/5/23 19:30:
Well, obviously, because I'm not that way and I don't think anyone else should 
be either, duh!

Seriously, I guess you have a point.  If someone wants to do just one thing, it 
has to be his choice.  Sounds dull, though, and also less marketable, and less 
valuable to our customers.  But if I want to be self-serving about it, I guess 
it makes the rest of us the more valuable.

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Ok, so exactly why is that a problem?

--- Bob Bridges wrote on 2/3/23 13:09:
It is a little distressing, though (at least to me), to observe how many 
"programmers" never ~have~ seen anything but COBOL.

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