See OS/VS Dynamic Support System, GC28·0640·1,, at 
<http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/OS_VS2/Release_2_1973/GC28-0640-1_OS_VS_Dynamic_Support_System_Nov73.pdf>.


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Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH,
You said: "...In each case a prerequisite SU killed DSS ..."
What is DSS?

Thanks and regards,
David

On 2022-12-06 07:09, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> MVS/SE installed on an OS/VS2 base; for R1 it was 3.7 with prerequisite 
> selectable units and for R2 it was 3.8 with prerequisite selectable units. In 
> each case a prerequisite SU killed DSS. MVS/SP replaced MVS/SE
>
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> My recollection is that it didn't really become a viable alternative to SVS
> until MVS 3.7. Soon after was MVS 3.8 and then IBM embarked on a series of
> other versions and designations, starting, I think, with MVS SE1 later
> renamed to MVS SE1.1
> Lennie
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> Presumably OS/VS2 Release 3, the second release of MVS. The MVS releases of
> OS/VS2 ran from 2.0 to 3.8, with a bunch of optional selectable units ("By
> the pricking of my thumb, SU 7 this way comes.")
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> Hi Leonard,
> You said: "... That computer center had MVS 3.0 running in the mid 1970s.
> ..."
> Is "MVS 3.0" a typo? (I do not recall ever hearing of MVS 3.0.)
>
> Thanks and regards,
> David
>
> On 2022-12-02 02:15, Leonard D Woren wrote:
>> Bill Hitefield wrote on 11/30/2022 10:39 AM:
>>> In college we had an IBM 1130 in the computer lab. Those of us
>>> working in the lab discovered an AM radio placed near the console
>>> switches made odd noises when you ran Fortran programs and set the
>>> radio to a specific "station". Further investigation revealed you
>>> could change the tone of the noise by using the "e to the x" function
>>> and varying the value of "x". Our goal in life then became to play
>>> "Smoke on the Water" using that radio. The temp wasn't too great, but
>>> you could recognize the main riff!
>>>
>>> Bill Hitefield
>>> Dino-Software Corporation
>>> 800.480.DINO
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>> I don't remember it very well, but I think the same could be done to
>> some extent on some 360 models.
>>
>> In the mid-1970s, a college friend had a job as an off-hours computer
>> operator at RAND (amusingly, where that 1970 film was made).  He
>> wrote, and a musical friend tuned, a program which played music on a
>> 2400 series tape drive by writing various length blocks -- the shorter
>> the repeated block, the higher the note.  I think one of their 2 songs
>> was Puff the Magic Dragon.  It was just hilarious to hear recognizable
>> music from a tape drive.  The program wore out tapes pretty quickly
>> though because all those short blocks were tough on the tape.  One
>> long channel program IIRC to keep the music from pausing when a
>> different job was dispatched.
>>
>> Footnote:  That computer center had MVS 3.0 running in the mid 1970s.
>> It was the first time that I saw MVS with lots of new stuff compared
>> to MVT 21.  But no TSO -- they ran Wylbur.
>>
>>
>> /Leonard
>>
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