Event driven architectures have been around for decades. Controlling traffic 
lights in the 1960s was event driven. 

There are a lot of new software platforms available these days, but the article 
did not discuss anything that can't run on a mainframe.

Neither you nor anybody else in this thread has identified any new technology 
that can't run on the mainframe, much less explained why that inability is a 
show stopper. Nor has anybody but you mentioned either 4K or paper tape, 
neither of which was common on 1960s mainframes. Think 1108, 7094, 360/65, not 
PDP-8.


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And yet still nobody seems to have grokked the fundamental differences
between online systems and event-driven architectures. This is obviously
not the forum for discussions on contemporary software architectures. It
always deteriorates into a deluge of boring and undiscerningposts about
how it's nothing new and was already done back in the day on a S360 with
4K ram and a paper-taper reader held together with gaffer tape.

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On 20/06/2022 7:40 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Before MQ there were QTAM and TCAM.
<groan>
>
> There have been mainframes running real time applications since the 1960s. 
> Air traffic control. Airline reservations. Controlling traffic lights 
> (UNIVAC, not IBM.) These may not be the best examples, but they were the 
> first to come to mind, and used off the shelf mainframes.
>
>
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> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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> You can make that 'about 30 years ago' - time flies while we’re having fun.
>
> René.
>
>> On 20 Jun 2022, at 09:51, Colin Paice<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>> MQ from IBM developed about 20+ years ago helped get from Batch to real
>> time.   You put messages to a queue, and it can run IMS transactions
>> (including OTMA),  CICS transactions, or even batch!.  You can put on one
>> member in a sysplex and get in another member.
>> It has single put, and also publish/subscribe capability.
>>
>> Colin
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