That thought also crossed my mind when reading the data at the "landing page" that Timothy provided, but as usual pricing is the real issue.
I would think IBM could price it like they proposed to do with the Learner's Edition of ZD&T, and it would be less burdensome for them because no dongle need be distributed since the cloud version on z/Linux can use an IBM license server. But that is thinking logically, and who knows how IBM will think about it. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS If IBM hosted then it would seem a better option than the ZDNT Learners Edition for students/hobbyists who want to code/develop without having to be s systems programmer. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lbdsoftware.com__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!NnXg6k7ZOLjLY_6n3-illSNVNHYqPY8vKmJUXGA4rvds2NVnxAD1ytOXelwn7UY5doYZYuA2Vvjs7ivNA4M$ Github: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/lbdyck__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!NnXg6k7ZOLjLY_6n3-illSNVNHYqPY8vKmJUXGA4rvds2NVnxAD1ytOXelwn7UY5doYZYuA2VvjsFbAu7A4$ "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - - - John Wooden -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 09:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS Lionel, That's what I was wondering myself, but after checking the "landing page" that Timothy provided, it looks like it is meant for on-premises use by existing z hardware customers - It's running on z/Linux on IFL's (min of 2) on your z hardware or on Wazi hardware in the IBM cloud. No mention of x86 or students in there from what I could see. And no pricing information at all, just "see your friendly IBM representative". But I do hope Timothy answers as well, this is just my reading of the data he provided. Peter -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS Is this an alternative to the ZDNT Learners Edition? What's the cost? Can hobbyists use it? Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lbdsoftware.com__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8 HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!PWNjDuIXI2E9ayvAZqhD4UpV2YEbt9O2_s0W-hzk2U3s5xk2AR2lgD_cVrdiY uBeI6Dh0J1oNJR1tRJzYOs$ Github: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/lbdyck__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HS AI-g_K5b7VKg!PWNjDuIXI2E9ayvAZqhD4UpV2YEbt9O2_s0W-hzk2U3s5xk2AR2lgD_cVrdiYuB eI6Dh0J1oNJR1HE-FJiU$ "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - - - John Wooden -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 03:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS IBM Wazi as a Service provides near instant (within just a few minutes), on demand access to z/OS instances for development, unit testing, and training. These instances run in IBM Cloud, and the performance is excellent since they run on real mainframes. Wazi as a Service is in limited preview now and will be more generally available this year. See here for more information: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ibm.com/cloud/wazi-as-a-service__;!! Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!PWNjDuIXI2E9ayvAZqhD4UpV2YEbt9O2_s0W-hzk2U3s5 xk2AR2lgD_cVrdiYuBeI6Dh0J1oNJR1zpaVZ_A$ One question we got is, "Great, but can I also do this on premises?" Well, yes, you "always" could/can with development LPARs and z/VM guests. And also on your Linux PC (or a X86 server) with the IBM Z Development and Test Environment (ZD&TE), although in that case it's real z/OS but with emulation overhead. Now there's yet another great option: the IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS, generally available THIS FRIDAY. The announcement letter is available here: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ibm.com/downloads/cas/US-ENUS222-251 -CA/name/US-ENUS222-251-CA.P__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!PWNjDuIXI2E9 ayvAZqhD4UpV2YEbt9O2_s0W-hzk2U3s5xk2AR2lgD_cVrdiYuBeI6Dh0J1oNJR1qOF_h_E$ DF And the landing page is here: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ibm.com/products/virtual-dev-and-tes t-zos__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!PWNjDuIXI2E9ayvAZqhD4UpV2YEbt9O2_s0 W-hzk2U3s5xk2AR2lgD_cVrdiYuBeI6Dh0J1oNJR13Gg4FHw$ This product also provides virtualized z/OS instances on IFLs for development, unit testing, and training. You will need at least 2 IFLs (on an IBM zSystems or LinuxONE server), although they can be potentially shared with other workloads. Of course you'll need some memory and disk space. The latter can be any reasonable Linux-attachable storage. (It does not have to be specifically ECKD/FICON-attached.) IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS licenses are available via IBM Passport Advantage in your choice of one-time charge license (with annual Subscription & Support) or monthly license (with monthly Subscription & Support). You can start with monthly then switch to one-time charge if you wish. Did I mention it's generally available this Friday? :-) Speaking to z/OS system programmers and other operators for a moment (and my personal views here, as always)... The intention behind these offerings is to make sure developers have whatever they need without constraints or delay. Let them do their jobs and be productive at speed. If each developer wants her own z/OS instance, FINE. If the developer "destroys" that z/OS instance, no problem, the developer can spin up another one from "last known good." (That's part of learning, and that's a good thing.) And if you won't let developers develop (and unit test), and maybe even stumble once in a while, we'll do it...with a very reasonable hourly rate for IBM Wazi as a Service, with "walk up" service just a few clicks/taps away from anywhere. But you can do it, too, so go do it (too), OK? With both Wazi as a Service and IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS developers can use the pre-built "ADCD" z/OS image or use a tool IBM provides to take a "snapshot" of the current development LPAR(s) and use that as a starting point. These z/OS instances can be automated, and we encourage that, so they can be used for DevOps pipelines with automated unit testing. Have fun. - - - - - This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. 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