Thanks. That sounds like a really good explanation to me.  From way distant
memory as each LPAR initiates an I/O eventually a CCW must be created
though these days I can't imagine any application program worrying about
that.  Something you might do in Assembler even though you would probably
invoke a MACRO.

It was an academic debate and I doubt if I would raise it with the security
team :-(

On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 3:02 PM Ken Bloom <[email protected]> wrote:

> The risk is not with the ficon channels as the way CCW’s are sequenced it
> would be virtually impossible for info to bleed across lpar’s.  Since Dasd
> is now virtual in all systems (IBM, EMC, Visara ,Hitachi) there is a
> greater chance of the shared file system causing data to be “misplaced”.
> Even so, it’s highly unlikely.
>
> Kenneth A. Bloom
> CEO
> Avenir Technologies Inc
> /d/b/a Visara International
> 203-984-2235<tel:203-984-2235>
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> www.visara.com<http://www.visara.com/>
>
>
> On Jun 14, 2022, at 10:38 PM, Mike Schwab <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> z/VM can share PCHPIDs.  But we always had 4 FICON for every LPAR for
> DASD.
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 9:07 PM Laurence Chiu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We had an interesting question raised recently in my work place by our
> security team.
>
> They said, if you have multiple LPARs on a Z box and you share FICON
> adapters going to the same DS8K is there any data leak issue that could
> occur? That is,  could LPAR1 inadvertently see traffic to the SAN that is
> defined for LPAR2 but sharing the same FICON adapter. Maybe somebody mixed
> up the IODF or something like that?
>
> I thought not and said, isn't that how VMware and Hiper-V work. The
> hypervisors share out FC cards etc. to the various VM's and it doesn't seem
> to be an issue and z/OS (or is PR/SM) is likely to be a much hardier OS
> security wise.
>
> Anyway I would get the view of the experts on the forum.
>
> Thanks
>
>

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