No, he's right.  You are, too (except about him being wrong).  He said you 
can't tell what's allowed by looking at the <emph>TSO segment</emph>, which is 
true; you look for a profile in the TSOPROC resource class to see what's 
permitted, which is what I gather you're saying.

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Radoslaw Skorupka
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 16:20

1. You're wrong. "what is allowed" is described in TSOPROC class.
2. Pity. However feel free to suggest better solution.

--- W dniu 20.05.2022 o 13:12, Seymour J Metz pisze:
>   1. TSO segments will only tell you what is allowed; you still need SMF to 
> tell how often they are logging on.
>   2. What about logon procs used for an activity that is only needed at long 
> intervals?
>
> ________________________________________
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
> Radoslaw Skorupka [r.skoru...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 8:03 PM
>
> Do you mean TSO logon procedure?
> There are some ways:
> 1. Review users' TSO segments - you will find last logon procedure used.
> Of course you cannot exclude that some user likes to change his
> procedure every week, or just because of some needs. But this is unlikely.
> 2.  Use RACF features like AUDIT. You will get SMF record everytime the
> procedure is used. Advice: first eliminate "popular" procedures because
> you already know they are used. Of course this method means change audit
> today and wait for results. How long? You have to decide. And again -
> you cannot exclude some VIP will logon using his favourite proc next month.
> 3. Look at SMF30. Create some report, omit the most popular names, et
>
> --- W dniu 16.05.2022 o 04:33, James C. pisze:
>> I needed to make a change to the logon procs but noticed that there were 
>> quite a few. I’d like to know which procs are actually being recently used. 
>> Does this information get recorded by SMF?  If so, which record type?

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